I ignored one of my own rules about duplicates

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  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Double die duplicates of rare varieties are a weakness of mine...

    Septimius Severus denarius
    Obv:– IMP CAE L SEP SEV PERT AVG COS II, Laureate head right
    Rev:– MONET AVG, Moneta seated left, holding scales and cornucopiae
    Minted in Emesa, A.D. 194 - 195
    References:– RIC -, RSC -

    A double die match. In this case I needed to buy coin 2 to allowme to confirm the reading of the reverse legend doe to an off centre strike. The second coin is flat on some areas on the reverse so I have an excuse to keep both...

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  3. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    I have a Titus as Caesar duplicate that has been assigned its own RIC number. This denarius features an engraver's error in the obverse legend. Instead of ending in the normal F the engraver mistakenly engraved an E. It is also an obverse die match to the unique British Museum aureus RIC V1437. A wonderful example of aurei and denarii sharing dies! The coin has been assigned by Carradice as V1440A (obv 2B) in the upcoming RIC II addenda.

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    AR Denarius
    Ephesus mint, 71 AD
    RIC V1440A, BMC V467 var., RSC 39 var., RPC 843 var.
    Obv: IMPERATOR T CAESAR AVGVSTI E (sic); Head of Titus, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: CONCORDIA AVG; Ceres std. l., on ornate high-backed chair, with corn ears and poppy and cornucopiae; in exergue, EPHE

    And here is the type with the correct legend.

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    RIC V1440 (R), BMC V467, RSC 39, RPC 843 (4 spec.)
    Obv: IMPERATOR T CAESAR AVGVSTI F; Head of Titus, laureate, bearded, r.
    Rev: CONCORDIA AVG; Ceres std. l., on ornate high-backed chair, with corn ears and poppy and cornucopiae; in exergue, EPHE

    I find it odd that the RIC authors gave the unique error (variant?) coin its own entry.
     
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  4. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    You got that right Ken , and the coins are better .
     
  5. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Great coins all, i cannot stop liking
    Mine first buy to last buying Minerva claudius.

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  6. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    very nice coins here :D.
    CAPPADOCIA, Tyana. Hadrian Æ 135-36 AD Tyche
    Reference.
    SNG von Aulock 6538-9; Lindgren I 1735; cf SNG Cop 316.

    Obv. AVTO KAIC TPAIA AΔPIANOC CЄBACTOC.
    Laureate head right.

    Rev. TVANЄΩN TΩN T T IЄP ACV AVT. ЄT K (date) across field
    Tyche seated left on rock, holding grain ears and bunch of grapes; below, river god swimming left, head facing

    11.04 gr
    25 mm
    21 P Hadrian .SNG von Aulock 6538-9.jpg 390 P Hadrian Lindgren I 1735.jpg
     
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  7. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    EGYPT, Alexandria. Hadrian Tetradrachm 137-38 AD Pronoia standing
    Reference.
    Emmett 881.22; K&G 32.770; Dattari (Savio) pl. 68, 7457; Köln 1243 var.

    Scarce.

    Obv.
    Laureate head right

    Rev. ΠΡΟΝΟΙΑ LKB (year 22)
    Pronoia standing left, holding phoenix and sceptre.

    13.60 gr
    24 mm
    12h.

    Note.
    CNG

    Pronoia (“foresight”) was an Oceanid nymph and wife of the Titan Prometheus, who was sentenced to eternal torture for stealing fire from the Olympian gods for use by humans.
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  8. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    actualy here it was here that i made an error bid (somehow) and won it (its the 1e and for sale)
     
  9. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Hadrian Denarius Roma 117 AD Pietas15 viewsex Beast coins.
    Reference.
    RIC II, -- (cf. RIC II, 13 but unlisted with this bust type)

    Obv. IMP CAES TRAIAN HADRIANO AVG DIVI TRA
    Laureate, heroically nude bust right, drapery on left shoulder, baldric strap around back of neck and across chest.

    Rev. PARTH F DIVI NER NEP P M TR P COS
    Pietas, veiled, standing facing, head left, right hand raised.
    PIE | TAS across fields
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    1e is from Zach Beasly
     
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  10. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

    Nero genius First to last

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  11. ro1974

    ro1974 Well-Known Member

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  12. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

  13. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Excellent 'duplicates' from all posted...and naturally AJ's post is simply phenomenal...

    It seems we all have a few similar types, if not exact duplicates, but like AJ I'm trying to focus on a variety and not a similar/specialized type of collection, and any duplicates I have were simply a matter of forgetting I already had that example (i.e anonymous Byzantines or two coins of Hostilian)...although, my recent attempt to upgrade my LRB's may soon change that LOL
     
  14. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Good choice. The third one is a less common Rome mint variation where the drapery falls both right and left rather than just one side or the other as on #2 and #4. Both sides is standard on Rome aureii and denarii of the Eastern mints but, I suspect, was some code at Rome that I do not understand. No one cares.
     
  15. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    More duplicates.

    Roman Imperatorial era, Mussidius Longus denarii featuring Concordia and the shrine of Venus Cloacina (Sewer Goddess). The second example is definitely an upgrade but I don't plan to sell the first one.

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    I have two of the common Julius Caesar elephant obverse denarii. At the time, I was doing a little coin shopping for a non-collector friend who just wanted some ancient coins. I'd already spent his budget and delivered the coins but bought two of these thinking he might want to buy the other. I never offered it to him, instead opting to keep both since the elephant types are different. :D My photography has improved since shooting these coins-- they need a reshoot.
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    My most recent purposeful duplicate purchase was this interesting provincial from Lydia (Sardis) which was restruck with a special "ring die", re-stamping the legends. The story of these coins is here.
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  16. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Valentinian said:
    If I had Doug's group, I'd keep the third one down and pass the rest along to Doug.

    I'll take the fourth coin (my fav) which leaves Doug with six.
     
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  17. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Well, since we are divvying up Doug's coins, I'll take any one of the last six or so.
     
  18. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Fantastic pieces all, such excellent examples here!

    Split it 50/50 between us eh Bing? :D
     
  19. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  20. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    OK for you guys-----splitting everything up between yourselves---but I have dibs on zumbly's hoard!!
     
  21. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Well, in that case... I'm sure AJ wouldn't mind me having dibs on his collection. lol :cool:
     
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