Featured Counterfeit Gold Eagles w/pics of core taken out.

Since you can tell a fake from a genuine coin simply be looking at it, which, if any, of these are fakes?

 

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I think you're another one that shouldn't buy gold coins. And I think you should read what I said a little bit better. With that being said, you know what to do with your pictures.

 

me personally im saying the last picture. The orange toned coin. My reason is in the head dress against the last star. The feathers line is wavey rather then a straight line. Looks like an issue that would come from casting and not from a die.

 

Are you sure ?

 

never can be sure from a photo unless theres a major flaw. I go by weight and an x-ray machine for coins to make sure theres no tungsten inside. I dont really like buying raw gold pieces as the loss to profit ratio is to wide open.

 

You are right you need more then the photo if some one said it's a fake

 

This thread was trying to pertain to the bullion material pictured.I never said I could tell any coin is a fake just by looking ,especially the coins I posted to begin with.Heck that is why My supplier forwarded me the info. But I could tell just by looking the coins in THAT youtube video. All I am doing is passing on info to the public , I am sorry that you feel that there is something to prove or I should have something to prove.
The pictures suck (thanks for giving me just the obv's) but I am confident in my abilities so here it goes.

The 1st coin is legit I would call it a MS61 based from the small photo.
The 2nd coin with the square background is a counterfeit . I believe it is an Omega Counterfeit actually.
The 3rd coin that is in an NGC slab & would grade MS63
And from everything I can tell the the 4th coin is legit . It appears to be a San Francisco mint coin & I would grade in VF35

 

You are the one who said

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I don't know; why don't you tell me?

 

Is the first one from Denver?

 

But am not looking at any coins and sorry will not play the guessing games. As for your photo collection try to get photos of the backs next time .Oh what to do with the photos put them back in your collection ?

 

You win the prize picture in the guessing games

 

"I go by weight and an x-ray machine for coins to make sure theres no tungsten inside."

What kind of x-ray machine? The X-Ray machine can "see" through the gold exterior then "see" the tungsten? Where do I buy this X-Ray machine?

 

Home Depot ?

 

http://alloytester.com/xrf-alloy-testers-alloy-grade-identification-alloy-grade-verification

 

Pretty sure that the analyzers you linked penetrate only a fraction of a millimeter into the bulk metal.

 

Jeff, if the specs are accurate and not overly optimized, for gold it might reach 2 mm as a component of an alloy, but looking through a layer of very high % gold will probably horribly reduce the resolution internally. That is why when testing the "suspected tungsten" gold bars of depositories, they used sound wave discrimination. If sound waves passes from one material to another dissimilar material, the wave form is distorted, not so with a solid gold bar or gold widget. That is also why some say they can hear a different tonal value when a 'plugged' coin is tapped

 

Yes ultrasound testing by GE

 

Ultrasound analysis certainly could work; is GE deploying this for PM testing?

 

The rise in fraudulently adulterated gold bullion bars by inserting slugs of inexpensive base metal of similar density causes much concern in the gold markets. These insertions are difficult or impossible to detect through weighing or radiography technologies. Some precious metals processors have even resorted to drilling or cutting bars to verify integrity. However, a simple ultrasonic test can quickly and reliably locate inserts with no need to drill, cut, or otherwise alter the bar.
It's the same as a ultrasound for medical reasons you put the gel on the bar this helps with the transmission of the sound waves. . GE is one of the makers I know of there should be others

 

This coin was bought by a dealer who is a member of one of the teletype systems I subscribe to. It was in a large purchase of bullion coins, it was part of a roll of AGE's. All of the other 19 pieces in the roll were genuine. Just think of all the IRA's sitting out there with Chinese "bullion" pieces that won't come to light for decades. It pays to know your dealer folks. even if it costs you a few bucks more now, it will pay in the end.