What happened to this coin?

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by merrill01, Jun 18, 2015.

  1. James.Bucki

    James.Bucki New Member

    Looks like a bad cast counterfeit error coin.
     
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  3. James.Bucki

    James.Bucki New Member

    Just to be clear, the United States Mint did make uniface die trials (a.k.a. "splashers") classified as "pattern coins". You can see some here:
    http://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/-1...al-judd-a1879-5-pr63-cameo-pcgs/a/1216-6779.s
    http://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/-1...2-pollock-3344-unique-ms64-pcgs/a/1208-3719.s
    http://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/un...s63-pcgs-an-obverse-die-trial-wi/a/394-4596.s
    http://coins.ha.com/itm/patterns/-1...k-3025-r8-repaired-pcgs-genuine/a/1208-3718.s
     
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  4. David Setree Rare Coins

    David Setree Rare Coins Well-Known Member

    Fake. Possibly one half of a casting before being paired with it's obverse. What is the weight?
     
  5. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Good post. Yes, it can be done. Two of these you can see the edging being struck into the coin, so it proves it was from a die. The other two I am not sure of.

    My post sir comes from the fact so many people come on here bragging about their "one sided coin". 99% of the time its simple a cast or a PMD. For the two issues above I would want certification like from a TPG before I was positive it was a mint product, just because it can be replicated easily.

    However, point taken. Everyone should be aware these coins do exist. I myself have one sided trial pieces from the Thai mint, so I am aware they exist.
     
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  6. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    HOLY SMOKES!

    We agree!

    The world is about to end!

    :)
     
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    Treashunt The Other Frank

  8. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Nah, if Doug and Lehigh ever saw eye to eye on an issue, THAT would be a sure sign of the coming Apocalypse. :D
     
  9. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    Not the Apocalypse, it would mean that we all just died.
     
  10. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    "In a related story, the temperature in hell this morning fell below 0 degrees Celsius."

    The OP's picture shows an early cast attempt, and is probably of pewter or some such lower melting point alloy.
     
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  11. James.Bucki

    James.Bucki New Member

    I already stated that...
     

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  12. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Fake or copy made for decorative purposes.

    Splasher were typically made using a low melting point metal such as tin or lead. A "button " of metal would be poured onto a paper or fabic backing and the die or hub pressed into it, often before it had completely solidified.
     
  13. l.cutler

    l.cutler Member

    I actually used to make pieces like this when I was a kid, make a one sided mould by pressing a genuine coin into plaster of paris, melt the metal and pour it in. They looked just about exactly like this.
     
  14. Ron W.

    Ron W. New Member

    I agree that it is a bad attempt to make a copy, even the reverse looks suspicious.
    Ron W.
     
  15. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

    Because there is a sucker born every minute.

    If one can produce a piece for 75 cents and sell it for $10 or whatever you paid for it is easy money.
     
  16. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Looks like a "test piece" for the Fung-Chow Fake Factory to me.....
     
  17. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Hmmmm -

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/et...r-averaging-grades.254742/page-3#post-2014772

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/be...ent-with-the-grade.234519/page-2#post-1766474

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/post-a-toned-coin.191715/page-166#post-1751701

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/grade-this-morgan.217285/#post-1570348

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/waddaya-think.208902/page-2#post-1476432

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/waddaya-think.208902/page-2#post-1476432

    https://www.cointalk.com/threads/remove-you-cac-sticker-month.208016/page-6#post-1469300

    And that's just a few of them, there are plenty more ;)

    And the forecast for tomorrow is even colder :D
     
  18. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  19. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    IMO the OP's coin is not a pattern coin & it is not a product of the US mint. I still recommend the OP read about the minting process in a book like "The Error Coin Encyclopedia". FWIW, here is a one-sided pattern coin from my collection. :) Germany 1876 2m Collage.jpg Germany 1876 2m Slab.jpg
     
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