Real or No Real

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  1. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

    Probably good advice. I would question if the OP really wants to purchase this coin when a much more attractive certified example might be found with a little bit of searching.
     
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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    I am sure that Alan knows the answer.

    He is just testing us
     
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  4. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    It's already been mentioned about the lack of wear on the MM, but I feel the same way about the date. It's way to "clean" for the amount of wear the rest of the coin exhibits.

    Also, from your Dino Lite pictures, I don't like the area immediately surrounding the MM. It looks odd, like it's residue from an adhesive.
     
  5. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I kind of see an S behind the D. But that just might be what I want to see.
     
  6. Fake! Also, does anyone else see the outline of the S mintmark that was removed to add the D? Ah, I see the person who replied above me saw it.
     
  7. weryon

    weryon World traveler - In Thailand

    It's hard to say because it this a flat view and you cannot get a good view of the sides of the mint mark. The scan makes it kinda look like it was worked around the mint mark. You really have to look at the sides.
     
  8. coinzip

    coinzip Well-Known Member


    Does this help? This is 200x and tilted slightly

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  9. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    It does kind of look like there's an S under the D, but why would anyone start with a 1916-S instead of a 1916-P?

    I don't see an "apex" to the right of the "triangle" inside the D; in other photos I've seen of worn examples, it was very clear.

    I also agree that the MM isn't nearly worn enough to match the rest of the reverse, and that the closeups show what appears to be work behind it.
     
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    It's a D over S Alan I seen the S before you took it up to 200x.
     
  11. Collect89

    Collect89 Coin Collector

  12. jtlee321

    jtlee321 Well-Known Member

    I saw the "S" screaming at me. They used the S as a position indicator.

    Plus the S gave the wear a natural well shape to give the appearance of a natural MM. A 1916-P would not have that protected well.
     
  13. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    Could you take 400x shot
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Clearly, there's a lot I don't know about fraudulently altering coins. :)
     
  15. thejaxcollector

    thejaxcollector Active Member

  16. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    I gotta with fake. Every authentic 1916-D in that condition I've ever seen has the mint mark worn down significantly more than this.
     
  17. mlov43

    mlov43 주화 수집가

    No real (to me).

    Looks like there's flux behind that "D" to me. Yeah, and we need to check on the correct shape of the MM and serifs.
     
  18. fretboard

    fretboard Defender of Old Coinage!

    If that dime is real, it will be a miracle. I haven't seen a miracle happen here for a while, in fact I don't think I've ever seen a miracle here. Show me the money!
     
  19. GSDykes

    GSDykes Well-Known Member

    There is a defined border around the mint mark, suspicious. Unless the punch had the exact same dimensions (a rectangle). If the punch had a head shaped like that rectangle, then it was engraved crooked (not aligned with the rectangle's sides), and the engraver of the punch would not have done that. I agree that an S stood underneath. Case closed. HEY, but nice photography!! Again, good photography solves another case.
     
  20. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    With that last close up I say not real also.
     
  21. lincoln

    lincoln Large Member

    Looks like a real dime, not imaginary, but that D is not right, so it is bogus. I have a G4 that is considerably nicer and its D is much more worn.
     
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