This type of fake is not new it's out there for years. and if you don't see it hand it's a he said he said thing that get you no were to tell the difference
You really don't "get" it, do you, John? If this "coin" was in your unaided hand, I would be very interested in knowing EXACTLY how you would identify, given all that has been said by the OP, as fake. Seriously... don't just say that you would know; the in-hand argument only goes so far.
You have no idea what you're talking about. Take a good look at the coin that he posted. If you tell me that is real, then you better get your eyes checked. Very few people here on this forum are presenting coins that they have actually seen. All of it is from pictures or people that have told them. Like this one is. If you look good at the gold coin you should be able to tell it's fake. If you can't, then you shouldn't be buying coins. At least these types. The true test of any coin is in hand. It could be a lousy picture or the person giving the info doesn't give it correctly. So your best way to tell if it is fake is by having it in hand. What I've seen in this forum you do need it in hand to tell if it's fake or not because in between pictures and diagnostics they're not very reliable here. So seriously, think about what you said. PS: Show me the teetering of the coin in the photo?
Just out of curiosity, what was it in the first two photos that led you to believe this coin was fake? As far as I can tell, the coin was milled out of two genuine coins so that the reverse was cupped inside the obverse and rim with a tungsten insert sandwiched in the middle. When you look at the third photo, it looks off because it has been mutilated by heat, obviously, but you can see it that is missing the rim from where it was fitted into the obverse. I wouldn't mind seeing a photo of the back side of the obverse shell.
I wouldn't mind hearing from the real owner of the coin. I think he would be able to tell us exactly what was wrong with it so we wouldn't have to be playing a guessing game. Which I am not. Good luck on trying to figure how it was done. Remember it teeters on the table.
I bet if somebody bought one of these and they didn't know much about gold eagles they could easily be fooled. I wonder what kind of jewelry testers were fooled? Sure there are many collectors who are familiar with US gold and can't be fooled but I learned a long time ago that the collector with the biggest mouth who talks smack about never buying a fake is usually the one who buys the fake. jmho
That's why you look at every coin and don't put too much faith in this post that you're reading. This fake probably doesn't even exist. Only in the minds of a few people. Remember, it teeters on the table.
They are not the same . I could tell the fake at first glance in that video unlike the one I posted to begin with.
Share your wisdom and tell us all what you see at first glance that tells you that the OP's coin and the one in the video is a fake. This is getting to be like the counterfeit quarter - "it's so and so because I say it is.
Sure thing. I handle a lot of AGE & bullion . When you do it becomes easy to spot the ones that have bad design elements. The one on the left in the video is almost cartoonish in her features. The fonts are incorrect in the date & "LIBERTY" , the stars are wrong ,ect...I have circle just a few. In addition the piece does not have the luster that it should. That is what I could tell just by looking at 1st glance on the video. I never stated that I could tell the coin that I originally had posted was fake just from first glance. I would be able to tell more so now with a piece in hand due to the education my supplier has given me on it . As I am passing on to others to help. The original coins that I posted from what I have been told were made from actual AGE's that have been milled out . That is the part (the milled out gold) the counterfeiter "skims" off and keeps as the profit.
The fakes are getting better and better all the time. Everyone should stay on high alert !! I'll catch them ..... Louis Gouchie 2014 Sol Kaplan Award winner.
when we have bullion come in we will go as far as drilling into the coin. Use can also use DWT on your scale to confirm silver 1 oz. bars and rounds. fakes will show .1 or .2 over and we know their not giving away any extra silver or gold for free.
"That's a good counterfeit. Any idea where it came from?" I'd bet the farm it's from our esteemed generous trading partner the Chinese.