Need help w/ type; '22 no P .01...

I just re read all the post and saw your post, you got it right, it is the same defect. At least the scammers bungled this one in a way it is easy to tell just from pics it is bad. I'm sure that there are a few who got conned by these. I'm about to go on ebay to see if I can find another example of this coin, should be easy with the die defect.

 

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You know there coloradobryan; I thought briefly that, if it's a fake, could a REAL Lincoln expert recognize the die from ANOTHER Lincoln...

But then I thought, "'09 - '58 P, D, S, is 150 different dies (minus a few), PLUS multiple dies for a couple... Not much chance of that".

THen again, maybe there is a chance of someone recognizing it.

Good eye!

So............is it worth anything, being a bogus coin???

 

the value is really what ever you feel is fair.

but just as an example of a fake.

not a lot

 

I'm not sure what to do about it, but it would be great to see a good detailed photo of the front of the coin, I'd like to see if there are some die markers for this fake. The reverse is paired with at least three obverse dies, one for a 22 no D, a 14-d, and a 55 ddo. There may be more. If the obverses are paired with another reverse die, it may Benifit all of us to see the obverse in detail.

 

I hear you sir, but personally do not bother with die markers for fakes. I do try to remember die markers for real coins, but for fakes try to not allow myself to worry about certain die markers. The 22 is actually a fairly easy coin to assess, since by definition it was overly polished dies that made the coin. Look at the mottos, the jacket, and other details on the obverse. Luckily forgers are not numismatists, so they probably are not aware this coin should have a shoddy appearing obverse do to a poor die.

To me, the problem with concentrating on certain specific marks to identify fakes is they are always coming up with new ones. If you just memorize certain markers, a new fake may have none of them and you might get fooled. I simply try to look at the whole of the coin, using everything I might know about the issue, instead. Maybe its just me though.

 

I see your point. Good thing we have detailed photos of the real coins to check a suspect coin against. I've seen fakes sell for big dollars on eBay, and it always leaves me wondering why people buy raw key date coins without knowing what they are buying.

 

Maybe list this coin on eBay as 'FAKE', with outrageous BIN $ so none take it, to inform buyers???

 

The angled pics make it challenge, but I can tell this is a fake....sorry.

 

Found this looking for old traders; why are you sorry, Bad Thad ? What do you see in the pic, that tells you that?

I sold that cent a year later, listed as Fake, Repro; still got $56 for it. Was NOT 'sorry' about that

 

Its normally $1.38ppd from China on Aliexpress.com