The risks of buying raw coins.

How do u duplicate a bag mark or a luster break on a Morgan dollar? Or toning exactly?

 

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That'd be great, but how are they going to pay for that?

 

The concept is fine to a point. You would be relying on computers technology to do it there are so many things that could go wrong and not all collectors are computer savvy to do it
I would think the cost to keep up a system like this would not be cheap and only for slab coins

 

Okay, this new seller is almost certainly the same as the old seller. Same craptastic fakes, same classes of fakes (mostly commem halves, with the odd three-cent silver and so forth), same one-day auctions (less time for each auction to get reported!), same pace (one, two or three at a time).

I'm thinking of taking a swing at this one:

1927 Vermont Silver Commemorative Half Dollar 50C - superb estate lot find 90%

Check out the "A" in "AUG. 16", and compare it to a real specimen. Then, for grins, compare the cat's head -- why is it a monkey's head on this particular "estate find"?

 

The super rare monkey's head

 

I ran across this discussion on twitter and thought is would be worth a try. Seems some other buyers are complaining about counterfeits. I plan to get some friends to bombard them with like complaints.

This is a venue for discussing your problems with ebay: twitter.uk@ebay.com

@AskEbay claims to be concerned that your issues are not being addressed. Remains to be seen.

 

If there is a seller selling fakes we should all need to get together as you say hit them with question about the listing and complain to ebay as a group because if there are 50 emails to the seller about the coin and the same to ebay
could help and on this form if there was a spot just for fakes that would be great
on our stamp form we have one on ebay sellers and fakes
now see what the others think

 

REAL good advice for "newbies" in our hobby......

 

There are many sellers selling fakes, some intentionally and some just don't know.
The two fakes that I know I bought, were sold to me by Ebay sellers with thousands of positive feedbacks and 100% ratings. In both cases the weights on each were around 2 grams light and they looked and felt odd in hand.
One was a 1783 Mexico 8 reales coin and the other was a 1812 Italian 5 lire Napoleon silver crown. Both are silver dollar size.

I watched the seller re-list the Italian coin and sell it to some other buyer, however he did state in his auction the weight of the coin and it was almost 2.5 grams light on a XF coin.

I have a good gram scale and I weigh every silver coin I buy, but I hear with some good fakes the weights are on point.

 

There are dealer with good feedback selling fakes and most if not all know there fake that why you have to do a little work your self as the weight as collectors here
what they think and know what a real one looks like

 

Gotta read all these posts.

 

I can't tell if the pic is pixelated or if the coin looks cast. My best guess on the pic is that it's a badly lit, low-res, picture of a darkly toned and slightly worn coin.

 

Yeah, no.



I mean, yes, it certainly is a badly lit and low-res photo. But look at:

The trailing on the A in AUG -- it could be die deterioration, but (a) I've not found anything remotely like it on a real specimen of this mintage-40000 coin, and (b) it's extremely common among counterfeits.

The shape and position of the ear. Again, this could be die deterioration, but the real dies weren't in service long enough to wear that much.

The shape and position of the brow ridge -- as I said before, the one on the left looks more like an ape.

The general crudeness of the lettering.

The cud starting to appear around HA. Again, common on fakes, not seen on legitimate examples.

Darkly toned and slightly worn, perhaps, but I won't dignify the example on the left with the name "coin".

 

Look at the foot and the E-P , The one in 16, ear, the BA, just to many on this fake

 

I used this email address and laid out my concern with sellers continually listing counterfeit coins. My recent experience with a certain seller gave me a personal encounter they could investigate. Next day they sent an email asking for my information, and low and behold.. they got back with me today saying they were investigating my concerns with this particular seller.
At this point I can't say if they will share their findings.

If anyone else has personal experience or even legitimate concerns with obvious fakes listed it may help to bombard them with evidence.

 

A nice 1924-d cent counterfeit on eBay with 6 days left to bid (no reply on complaint to eBay)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/400938067256?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

on listing - scroll down to reverse photo and notice characteristic bump on left wheat line just above the U in Union - also the right wheat does not have correct outer ridges... this reverse is standard on a lot of different counterfeit cents including a recent 1915-d & 1915-s listing

http://www.ebay.com/itm/121669824331?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

Did you email the seller ?

 

Yes - no reply from either seller

 

Make a complaint to eBay

 

Yes I made a complaint to eBay yesterday as noted in original post.... but since auction item is not a counterfeit Gucci handbag with a large legal department in contact with eBay, I do not anticipate any action.