Got myself a Domitian

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by ValiantKnight, Jun 9, 2015.

  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Silver is tough to photograph. Check your white balance correctly, and if you still get some hue in pic, desaturate, desaturate, desaturate.
     
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  3. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Thanks all and cool coins!
     
  4. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

    minerva walking left
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    minerva walking right
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    need a minerva walking into owl
     
  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    big sweet green domitian VK! i dig it, and would snatch it up for sure.

    my only coin form this guy is a denarius...

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  6. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic


    Not to be pedantic (but this hobby invites it!), your first coin is Minerva standing left with thunderbolt and spear, shield behind her. Also, you are missing two other types: Minerva and owl on capital of rostral column, and Minerva standing left with spear.

    Don't be like me and collect one of every type from all the issues, it is quite obsessively maddening.

    Awesome coins BTW.
     
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  7. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    I know I've posted it like 10,000 times already but since it is a Domitian... :rolleyes: (my only other one)

    Domitian, Roman Empire (revalued under the Ostrogothic Kingdom)
    AE as/42 nummi
    Obv: CAESAR AVG F DOMITIAN COS II, laureate head left, countermark XLII (42) in left field
    Rev: VICTORIA AVGVST, Victory advancing right, standing on prow, holding wreath and palm branch, S-C across fields
    Mint: Rome (struck 73-74 AD; revalued 498-526 AD)
    Ref: RIC 677

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  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Standing left with statue of victory
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    advancing right on ship, owl at feet
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    Advancing right no owl , no ship and fourree so details don't count
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    It is fine to shoot color correctly but you can fine-adjust tints in postprocessing so you really should have the coin in hand and compare what yo see to what you have on the screen. Unfortunately the tint you see 'in hand' will depend on the light you use since an old fashion incandescent bulb, fluorescents (of several color variations), LED's (also come in several tints), daylight and light bouncing around your pink/blue/orange/purple painted bedroom all will change the definition of white. You can make changes to be accurate as soon as you ecide what is accurate by your definition. Desaturation makes thing seem gray and that may be the correct (lack of) color for many coins. Many is not all. To make it worse, the screens on each of our several computers, tablets or whatever will not all be exactly the same unless we have adjusted them with very specialized monitor balancing software. Most of us say, "Close counts" and don't bother. My Domitians shown here were processed on my of computer with is just a bit cooler (more blue) than my new laptop so they don't look exactly right to me but I might not be 'correcting' if I changed them as much as just making them different. Will any number of you see these tints exactly as I do on your equipment? Now I understand why so many dealers are using black and white photos.
     
  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Well, from my perspective, in my home office, lit by whatever bulbs are in my lamps and on my computer screen color adjusted from the factory, all your images look fantastic. But that is just me in my simple setting.
     
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  10. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Pedantic David here again. The second type you post has mistakenly been called "Minerva on prow of ship" or just a "ship" for many years. It's actually a capital of a rostral column decorated with prows. Interestingly enough, the new RIC II notes Oxford has an example of this type (RIC 730) depicting an actual prow instead of the normal columna rostrata. On better preserved specimens two seated figures can be seen on the capitial.
     
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  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Is there an image on-line of this coin?
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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  13. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I would like to see the coin depicting the two seated figures on the capital.
     
  14. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Thanks Doug. The examples you've linked show the seated figures beautifully.
     
  15. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    These are seated figures? They sure would have gotten by me.
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  16. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    Yes sir, those are the figures. They get by many collectors and dealers simply because of their size and it only takes a small bit of wear to make them hard to see.
     
  17. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    They got by me too, but looking at mine now I can just about make them out. Thanks for pointing this detail out!

    Sellers images; I haven't taken my own yet.

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  18. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    You are quite welcome!

    The obvious question would be who or what are the two figures? Ian Carradice in Coinage and Finances in the Reign of Domitian simply says "decorated with two figures" and nothing more (p. 21).

    Could they be some combination of Jupiter, Victory, or Neptune? What figures are normally depicted on these columns?
     
  19. brassnautilus

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  21. David Atherton

    David Atherton Flavian Fanatic

    This is a rare type struck for Domitian as Caesar by Vespasian in 76/77, RIC 920. Interestingly, it is described in the new RIC as Minerva "on prow"!

    Domitian as Augustus struck Minerva types with the legend running across field in 87/88. They are rare as well.
     
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