Okay, surely this won't stir up controversy....

Is this the 2nd grade or something? We can only be nice now? If there were no smartie-pants, constant critics, or internet tough guys on CT, this place would be barren wasteland. Anyway, Mr. Carr, please make me a seal coin like this, only put him in a Navy uniform as a tribute to Navy Seals.

 

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My momma never had the chance to teach me anything. Oftentimes one does not like an opinion that somehow varies from his own. Anything contrary is "hate speech" and, invariably, there will be the feeble minded who attempt to stop any chatter that diverges from his own preconceived notions. I honestly hope that your tokens grade 70 and you display them proudly for all you wish to see. There is probably scant few of these gems available so perhaps someday they will be valuable.

 

On his website, Daniel Carr calls the items that you posted pictures of in post#1 medals. Not coins. Not tokens. You've invited controversy by calling them "coins (tokens)".

 

" That which we would call a rose would smell as sweet." Semantics

 

It will (stir up controversy).

And don't call me "Shirley".

 

You are correct. Those do not rise to the level of a token. They are medals, pure and simple.

 

Ok, this stops here or the thread will be removed! Morgandude, it is quite possible in my mind that you did intend to stir up the controversy once again on this area. That be as it may, the argumentation is unwanted. It is a token as was stated in post 1. Probably it should be called a "round" instead. You can be argumentative about an "object ( coin, round, bullion,)" as long as not PERSONAL attacks. Read the rules!!!!

 

Penny and cent. Nah, that's not controversial!

 

Please feel free to remove the thread. I didn't intend to be either personal or provocative, but to highlight coins (tokens) that I had obtained. In the future, I shall only post Daniel Carr tokens in the new acquisitions thread, as it seems to generate hostility anytime his work is posted for open season comments. That was in no way my intention--this was intended as a thread to show the artistry of the tokens (they are classified as tokens by ANACS when certified, so I shall go by the TPG designation, just to be official).

 

Hey, if you are a real deal Seal, I offer you my personal congrats--oorah!! If not, thanks for pointing out the heroics of our gallant Seals. I am former USN, but not a Seal.

 

@Morgandude11, to keep it on topic, I actually really like the look of the 64-D peace dollar and the 1916 Barber tributes. These don't do anything for me. And here's a little something for us all to laugh over. Enjoy.

 

That is cool with me. People in the hobby have different tastes, and that is what makes us all collectors. One can be a purist, a diverse collector, or a casual collector, and we still all appreciate the same thing--the joy of owning coins (or tokens as the case may be). lol As you know, my first love is Morgans, and it makes for collection diversity.

 

I like those Morgandude! Can't wait to see the silver one.

 

As I said, pro/con/indifference about coins, bills, bullion, errors, etc is expected and allowed as long as the other rules are followed, so even in other threads, opposing view points might be expressed. Mr. Carr is a member of the forum, so personal comments directed towards him would also draw moderators. I monitored this thread from post 1 due mainly to the title, and I am sure it attracted more attention than it would otherwise. Art is often polarized as to opinions, so that also expected to some non-personal point. Calling them by the TPG designation is proper.

 

I could not agree more-- Art is extremely subjective. I just get irritated at the personal comments made, as opposed to the merits of the tokens. One can choose to like them, or dislike them, depending upon personal tastes. However, arguing in an insulting manner is totally over the line. I agree with the way you handled the thread.

 

Perhaps the medals are slightly more like a "coin" than the slug because the medals are made out of traditional coinage metals (copper, brass , silver). The slug is not.

Show us some self-stamped "Coin Vault" medals so we can compare.

Your statement, as worded, seems to imply that "medals" are "frauds".

 

I don't have any coin vault self stampers and I was making a personal off the cuff observation not a statement of fact. To me they look Iike tin crap you would see at an arcade. To someone else they may look look like something St. Gauden made. Hence the subjectivity I repeatedly mentioned.

By definition a medal cannot be a fraud unless it were copyrighted or otherwise protected since it doesn't try and be anything but that, a medal. I wrote it that way with fake coinage in mind not art that may in some way resemble coins.