One of the worst faked 1955 Doubled Die Lincolns I have seen for sale on Ebay

I came across this listing and yes I have reported it. This has got too be one of the worst faked 1955 Doubled Die Lincolns that I have seen for sale. Damn shame someone is going to be out of some money if the listing isn't removed by the time the listing ends. The seller has excellent feedback which is surprising. I even sent him a msg letting him know it is fake and a picture of what a real one should look like. Of course, no response. It aggravates me that Ebay no longer listens too the coin collecting community when it comes to listings like this one. http://www.ebay.com/itm/281712574928?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

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I think that's actually Abe's brother "Gabe".

Yeah, that's the lamest I've seen in a while. Hope the high bidders are aware of what's going on, and bidding to protect the naive.

Edit: check his neutral feedback -- he's been caught out selling fakes before. In the past I've left neutral for fakes if the seller seemed unwitting and offered a prompt refund, but I'm reconsidering that policy; if eBay isn't going to lift a finger against fake sellers, I guess it's up to us to do it with negative feedback.

Trying to decide whether it's worth the time, trouble and (presumably very small) risk to buy something from this clown and drag him over the Buyer Protection coals. He's got a lot of early Lincolns listed, including an S VDB and a 14-D; I wonder if any of them are legit.

Edit again: I suppose it's possible that he bought a set of Lincolns from the estate of someone who decided to "make his collection more perfect" with replicas of the key dates. Doesn't explain all the feedback for fake silver, though, and makes me wonder about all the rounds and ASEs that he's been moving more recently.

 

Raw key date Lincolns. All of them look suspect. They all look to be cheesy cast replicas.
Here's the reverses of the 22 no D, the 14D and the 24D. All of them look like they were cast with the same mold. They all show the same anomally on the left wheat stalk just above the U in UNITED. It was probably a die break in the coin used to make the mold.
I'd be ashamed to have coins in my username and selling crap like this.

 

Who knows how much feedback Ebay has removed for this seller regarding fake coins as well. I know in one instance not with this seller but with another who sold me a fake coin where I had left negative feedback and not only myself but others left negative feedback in the same time span as well. I had checked the sellers feedback like two weeks later and Ebay removed all of it. Not only that but the seller had some new coins listed that were again fakes a little while later. It's pretty disgusting that Ebay doesn't seem to care if counterfeit items are sold so long as they get their cut of the cash.

 

Really good eye catching that on the back of those coins. After I saw the 55 ddo I did not even look at the rest of his junk

 

Great catch, for sure all from the same die.

 

Not true; I've taken care of that.

 

I'm always leary of a seller that takes pictures of coins in a holder. They have a reason not to take it out.

 

Some serious fraud about too take place. As you stated the same error appears in every single coin he has listed and about to sell. I am glad I saved all his listing to show this

 

It's so bad that Lincoln looks like he's holding back a smile, or stoned out of his mind. WOW!! That is just terrible.

 

Hello, I'm late to this party; I haven't logged in for a long time. I checked the link, and it's showing the coin sold for almost $900.

 

I was the "high" bidder on the 1955 DDO and the 1909-s VDB, and I strongly believe both to be counterfeit. I bid to keep someone from being taken. I will be contacting eBay and canceling the sell.

 

How do you "cancel a sell" on ebay? Doesn't ebay have pretty good protections to keep sellers from backing out?

 

The coin is not authentic, and he cannot pass good title to it. I will have no problems having eBay pull the listing and voiding the transaction with a simple phone call. In fact, under new legislation meant to strengthen the Hobby Protection Act, it is questionable whether he could even sell it with full disclosure that the piece is a counterfeit.

Edited: And yes my typo was egregious. In the post you quoted, I mean I will ask eBay to cancel the sale.

 

Thanks for the reply. Yeah, I knew you meant "cancel the sale".

How are you so sure it is a fake? I am a very newbie collector and would like to learn about these things.
Thanks

 

The first one has several tells. The most obvious is that the devices look nothing like the portrait of Mr. Lincoln that appears on a genuine coin. As others have posted, it looks also most as if Old Honest Abe is smiling or stoned out of his mind. There are also other tells. The planchet quality is very poor, there is bubbling in the fields, and some of the mottos have poor resolution. This all makes me think that it is a cast counterfeit. The 1909-S VDB also looked wrong to me. The mint mark did not look right for the issue and the poor quality of this coin also makes me think that it is a cast counterfeit.

Interestingly, this seller has had coins returned as counterfeits before. Check out his feedback. Why the other buyers left neutral instead of negative feedback, I will never know.

 

Why aren't the feds on this guy (and eBay)???

 

Feds are too busy covering their own behinds, targeting conservative celebs, and creating more taxes.

I had a "poor man's" 1955 DDO removed from ebay a couple years ago. It was probably one of you guys.

I didn't even state that it was a true one, only a possible and had very clear pictures that showed what I believe to be mechanical doubling on Liberty and the date.

It was still yanked, so damned if you do, damned if you don't. I don't want any issues with fraud or even potential fraud, so I just let it go. It wasn't worth the hassle to fight.

I did sell it to a dealer at a local coin show for about $20 (traded for VF Morgan common date), the cent was AU quality. With my luck on that coin, it was probably a legit DDO and I got taken. (sigh). Such is the life of the amateur.

 

There isn't enough money involved, and it isn't cost effective or feasible to go after everyone sadly. Can you imagine how overworked the FBI would be if it investigated every case of wire fraud?

 

As d.t.menace pointed out on the examples he posted pictures of they have the same mistake on the left wheat stalk. Both the 55DDO and the 09VDB S also had the same mistake. Every Lincoln cent he sold that day had the same mistake in the same location. Another tell