Just got the elusive 1916 Barber Half....

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Morgandude11, May 18, 2015.

  1. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Just crazy talk, I know, but if you don't like it, don't read it. Problem solved.
     
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  3. cpm9ball

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    I didn't say it was the prettiest design. I said it is (in my opinion) the prettiest coin in the entire series. There is a difference.

    Chris
     
  4. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    So what if he puts a 6 where a 5 or a 4 or a 3 (or whatever!) used to be. The rest of it is still copied. If it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck..........

    Chris
     
  5. cpm9ball

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    That's not a very good analogy. You're implying that everyone who bought the DC copies is greedy and ignorant.

    Chris
     
  6. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Jinghuashei used a loophole in the Chinese law which did not force him to mark the coins with "REPLICA".

    DC used a loophole in the US law which did not force him to mark the coins with "COPY".

    No matter how "pretty" you make it sound, it is still a loophole.

    Chris
     
  7. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    What IS the loophole?
     
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  9. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Aren't these the same people who make the laws?
     
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  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Classic coinage should be appreciated for what it is Classic "Not modified " As a collector I do take a disliking to modification of a coin. There are only so many minted no matter what the mintage is. I don't care if you are talking hobo nickels,enameled coins,cut coins,etc.
    You would not take a master's art work and paint over it.
    Why would you strike over a coin to make it a fantasy piece?
    A item with no value other than what its maker gives it.
    I had this same discussion years ago with a friend whom collected sport cards. He would say see this card it's worth $100.00 to my reply it's only value is what someone is willing to pay . Sport cards can be reissued,counterfeits . Topps can print as many as they wish. I can pretty much guarantee you there is only 484,000 1909 S VDB Lincoln cents minted. And the same holds true to it's value..only what someone is willing to pay you for it.
    However I be willing to bet that the same amount spent on a coin will appreciate over time more so then a sports card.
    That said see how much Mr. Carr ' s work is worth in fifty years.
    George Carlin once said "nail two things together that no one else has nailed together before and some smuck will buy it."
     
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  11. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    Is this not-so-slyly implied racism really the best you can come up with? This is a new low, even for you, and reeks of desperation. Surely even you can see the difference between one "caucasian" hobo (or, gasp, even black, Hispanic, or god forbid, "Native American" hobo) hand carving, into a nickel, for reasons that have NOTHING to do with heritage, an often ORIGINAL design and you exactly copying 98%+ of the original, changing only a number or two while copying the original typeface, surely not with your unaided hand, and using machinery to comparatively pump them out? I'm sure you can, but unfortunately, this does not fit well into your clearly warped sense of self-importance. If anything you sould be ashamed. Ashamed to be so desperate and depraved that you're willing to stoop to such pitiful levels, all in this ridiculous and endless attempt at deflection. Earlier with the "hater" nonsense, and now bring race into a discussion in which it has ABSOLUTELY no place... completely uncalled for and utterly disgusting.








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  12. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    No lawyers and judges don't make the laws.....lawyer's bend the laws to benefit Their clients and judges are supposed to in force the laws.
    Congress are the law makers. And of course we all can agree on how well that works.... :)
     
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  13. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    169 Members of the House (38% of the House) and 57 Senators(57% of the Senate), held law degrees.
     
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  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well I'm guessing that most didn't carry a 2.0 GPA!
     
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  15. dwhiz

    dwhiz Collector Supporter

    Wow this was posted on page 4 and this thread is now at 23 pages "Oh the Joy"
     
  16. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    In concept, those companies are not altering genuine coins but are instead manufacturing .999 fine silver blanks thereby creating new pieces.

    Note that Daniel Carr refused to consider making a 1965 dated 40% Silver Clad Franklin Half dollar simply because there are no 40% Silver Clad Franklin Half Dollars to alter.

    All of the work by the Moonlight Mint in regard to "overstrikes" is that the host coin is a genuine US Mint produced coin.

    As for comparing the work of the Moonlight Mint to that of known "counterfeiters", the counterfeiters are creating copies of existing coins/dates/mm for the purpose of "filling holes" in existing coin albums (at least that was the initial intent). It took the ingenuity of the American con artist to start selling these as "authentic" US Made coins.
     
  17. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    You didn't answer the question, you merely repeated verbage about the "loophole" but failed to define what the "loophole" might be.

    What is the exact "loophole"?

    As for the supposed Chinese Law "loophole"? My understanding is that they can produce whatever they want as long as it's pre 1949.
     
  18. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    From what I've read, this is the first mention of race that has appeared.

    And, exactly which post are you referring to where race was mention.

    As an aside, I find that the use of the words, ashamed, depraved, desperate and pitiful, to be inciteful
     
  19. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    No? Then do well what this incessant insistence that they are not copies mean then? They are either of your design or copies of someone else's; it is one or the other.
     
  20. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    #419.

    Then perhaps you should read more, especially before making your own "inciteful" assumptions, sir. My words, while more direct, were nowhere near as "inciteful" as his in the above post or earlier in this thread. Even though I do not agree with what he does, at least I had the decency to keep things respectful, especially when compared to others here. If Mr. Carr is such a big boy that he can intentionally incite, by implying racial motivations, in another lame attempt to deflect from the issue at hand, he shouldn't need you to run to his defense.
     
  21. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I do not see anything "inciteful" as much as I see an opinion. Your words, on the other hand, directly name Mr. Carr as "depraved", "desperate", "pitiful", with an admonition that he should be "ashamed".
    Aimed, without doubt, at disparaging him for whatever reasons.
     
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