New Listing For 1964 P Hot Lip Dime.

Yes I second that! The parts I quoted were said by James Wiles

 

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So what happens to the coins already graded by a TPG?
Are they Error Errors? Seems like after paying for attibution and grading there's some money on the table!
One other tidbit bit it seems Errorscope had a feature story on these on their last cover ,as well as this posters name was included in the write up.

 

Paddy this looks nothing like a clashed olive!

 

Well all I can say is I personally won't be sending in any varieties for attibution for quite a while . No need to lay out money,postage, the risk of losing the coin or coins in the mail, to receive a letter a month later stating we didn't research this fully .
So how many other varieties are floating around that have not been researched ,but have been slabbed and now collectors laying out big money for them?
Makes for a lot of trust....

 

@Paddy54
I can't blame you if the powers at be are so uncertain about things. It's a waste of time and money.

 

I say we start our own error/variety attribution company! We start with your find. let's change the name from "hot lips DDO" to Doble Labio DDO! That's Spanish for double lips

 

You know that has a certain ring to it...and I like it! Doble Labio

 

Paddy, please see the front page of the CONECA Website. HERE

 

Wonderful! This news I like. @Paddy54 will be thrilled! And he states what we said - quote "All clash marks I've seen on Roosevelt dimes that show in the fields of the obverse are incuse and the doubled lips are raised and rounded without a single indication of abrasion (which Wiles throws into the mix) just like a doubled die." closed quote

 

One Roosevelt's dimes are not really care about. Till now so it's not easy for Experts to say they Missed or just didn't care what collector's have shown them since 1946.
I think or grading company don't want to have to learn about a Roosevelt

 

The discussions at CONECA about this coin is not over but Ken has taken the time to at least in my eyes give good enough evidence to changes some minds. The Roosevelt dime series has been virtually untapped because of lack of interest in the series over the years. We know there are TONS of die clashes and when something pops up new.. the first thing that is looked at for obvious reasons is clashes. Now.. If one were to take say a 1946 or a 2014 dime and do an overlay what you see if different than what you see on the 1964 date. Die/Hub changes over years. This coin sure has gotten the juices flowing..

 

Have you seen the two I posted over at Coneca,a 57 P and a 2015 . Both to me speak of a new variety . Plus as soon as time permits I have a very interesting 1996 P to post.

 

The way my luck has been going.do you think I could add a "NAMD" variety to that.(Not Another Machine Doubling).[emoji25]

 

Here is a photo that looks like the mint was trying to remove the doubling or clash... or what ever they are calling it this week.

 

@coinzip
I like What ever it's called this ???
We know what we see John.

 

That's some heavy duty polishing for sure. They're not calling it anything just hoping it falls off the grid.

 

It was worth the search and the time! Nice find. Congrats.