Just got the elusive 1916 Barber Half....

C'mon mr. Carr, make Lucille some more Fantasy Franklins, I'll buy em all and save the hobby from ruin.......

More Frankies for me.

 

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I'd like to accommodate your request, but once I close out an issue, I won't go back and issue more of them. At least once a week I get someone asking if I can sell them a "1964-D" over-strike Peace Dollar. When I produced and sold those in 2010 I stated up front that no more than 2,000 would be produced. It was only fair to the people who already bought one to honor that limit, which I did.

There have been three "1964-D" over-strike Franklin half dollars on eBay in the last few months. The realized prices were: $156; $250; $300. There aren't any listed now, but if you keep watching, some more might turn up. You can search in the eBay Coins & Paper Money category for "Carr Franklin" (that is how I found the three recent sales).

 

The Title 18 statutes do not prohibit the defacement of coins.

 

Not even a 1965 40% clad?

 

A "1965" Franklin over-strike could be a possibility, since I haven't done one before. But it would have to be 90% silver since the only genuine Franklin half dollars to strike over are 90% - none are 40%. Striking the Franklin design over a 40% Kennedy would not work so well. I'd be more inclined, however, to do a "1947" rather than a "1965".

 

The statutes prohibit having undefaced dies with U.S. coin designs on them and prohibit the coining of U.S. coins with them on planchets. The fate of a planchet in its previous life is immaterial. And when you are striking completely new coins, regardless of what is underneath, you go beyond defacement. You are coining a new piece. That should be an obvious distinction, but you fail to see that. You are creating a new coin.

 

Are you the same lucybop that posted on the CU/PCGS forums for years? People ATS have inquired as to what happened to you - you don't post very much anymore.

 

You could do a 1964 P Franklin half dollar (no mintmark of course). Ben was a Philly guy.

 

I'd buy it for sure--I like that--a 1947 Frankie. Too bad you can't do proofs, as I would add it to my Franklin proof registry series....lol

 

The statutes are conflicting. As I said previously, if the Title 18 statutes are the only consideration, then EVERY maker of EVERY replica US coin is in violation, even if they were stamped "COPY". But not a single one has ever been charged with such a violation (neither before nor after the HPA enactment), as far as I know. Of course, the Title 18 statutes were enacted at a time when coin collecting was not a consideration. The purpose of Title 18 was to protect the legal-tender circulating coinage base. It wasn't until much later when the HPA was enacted that coin collecting was addressed. At that time Congress could have banned all replicas of any US coins (which is the case in Canada for Canadian coins). But instead, Congress decided to allow the manufacture of replicas (using molds and dies), with the caveat that if the item was a replica of an "original numismatic item", then the replica itself (but not necessarily the dies) be marked "COPY".

If a "hobo" nickel carver were to exactly re-engrave ALL the details on a Buffalo nickel while changing the date to "1939", what would that constitute ?

 

For some strange reason I hadn't really thought of that. It would be possible. There are a lot of other coin types I'd like to do before something like that, however.
Like a Walking Liberty half dollar "1922", "1924", "1925", "1926", "1930", "1931", "1932", and/or "1948".

 

I'm sure the treasury dept. is well aware of Mr. Carrs' activities and doesn't deem his actions as a threat to the public or to society in general.........

 

You have a whole line of Morgans you could make. 1905-1920.

 

I have done some "proofs" - they are more difficult, but still possible. I may do a proof-like version of the "1916" over-strike Barber half dollar. The other proof-like over-strikes that I have done are the "1964-D" Peace Dollar, "1909-o" Morgan Dollar, "1910-D" Indian Head Cent and the 2009-"DC" "proofed" Silver Eagle.

 

I did already do a "1909-o". Here is a complete list of what fantasy over-strikes I have done so far: http://www.moonlightmint.com/dc-coin_over-struck_list.htm

 

I have to give you credit Daniel. You do some really pretty work.
With the pricing on these, I'm sure China is watching your work as well.
Crazy thought. Where would the laws be if they decided to copy your work?

 

Absolutely LOVE the Morgans and the Peace proofs. I will see if I can find them on the secondary market for sale. Next time you do a proof, I shall be one of the first to buy.


Also, just to prove the point I was making, here is one of Daniel's 1965D high grades in an ANACS slab MS 69 asking $500 on Ebay right now:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/ANACS-1-196...916?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3aa7cc091c

The BULK handled lower grade MS Morgan overstrikes sell in the $150-200 ballpark. I haven't recently seen a sold high grade (MS 67+) completed sale recently--collectors are not selling them that often.

 

Oh, wow -- the "missing short set". Guess I'd better start saving up...

 

I'm not sure what legal recourse there is, but there have already been various Chinese fakes of some of my original-design coins. I have been able to get eBay to cancel such auctions when I see them, however. Here is my web page where I document the Chinese fakes: http://www.moonlightmint.com/fakes.htm

 

Any conflict would be for pieces that do comply with the HPA, and surely those would be legal. But if they are not authorized by the HPA, then there is no conflict as applied to you and the statutes are perfectly enforceable as is. Repeal by implication is only allowed when unavoidable and only as much as is required to provide effect to both statutes. This argument doesn't help you at all. And the "everyone else is doing it" doesn't matter either. Failure to prosecute in the past does not preclude the government from enforcement in the future.