1794 Liberty Cap Bust Cent: opinions grade/variety please

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by razorblaydesjr, May 23, 2015.

  1. razorblaydesjr

    razorblaydesjr Active Member

    I took alittle bit of a gamble and purchased this large cent. I know how I'm grading it, but would like some feedback from the forum members.

    Also, I'm not up to speed on the varieties for this series, but would like to confirm or deny if this is a S-21?

    I didn't take these photos, so this is all that is available until the coin arrives and I can post some from my camera. Also, it appears to have a clipped planchet. Hoping this is the case and not PMD.

    Thanks in advanced for your input.

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  3. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I love these. Awesome xf detail!
     
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  4. razorblaydesjr

    razorblaydesjr Active Member

    That's exactly why I decided to pick this one up... the detail got me to bite.
     
  5. Paul M.

    Paul M. Well-Known Member

    Looks to me somewhere in the neighborhood of VF25 details according to ANA. I can't really give an EAC grade, nor do I know its Sheldon number.
     
  6. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    I wouldn't even consider using the ANA Grading guide on these early coppers. The strikes were all over the place, done crudely (relative to say, after 1836) and without the necessary expertise (again, relative to the times).
     
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  7. okbustchaser

    okbustchaser I may be old but I still appreciate a pretty bust Supporter

    Actually the Sheldon scale (used by the ANA grading guide) should ONLY be used on large cents. That's what it was developed for.

    This appears to be a corroded VF-30. I would net it to F-15. (VF-20 if I were feeling generous).

    And yes, it appears to be the S-21 "Flat pole".
     
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  8. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Ya. Too each his own.
     
  9. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Very cool bit of history , with a good strike and a lot of meat left .
    Congrats .
     
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  10. razorblaydesjr

    razorblaydesjr Active Member

    Thanks @rzage. I thought so too!
     
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  11. swamp yankee

    swamp yankee Well-Known Member

    Congrats on the nice score!
     
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  12. sambyrd44

    sambyrd44 Well-Known Member

    better then many examples in the market place. The environmental damage is not unusual on this coin most have some issues. Details are great the significant porosity and planchet would bring the coin to about fine net.

    Nice example of an important type coin.
     
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  13. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Here is my baby...

    1794 reverse.jpg 1794 obverse.jpg
     
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  14. sshafer11

    sshafer11 Head Research Assistant - Coin Show Radio

    Looks like a nice VF pushing XF Detail by ANA Standards. Hope it is a nice looking cent in hand, it definitely has a chance to be.
     
  15. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    Wow, is that the same coin?

    The scratches were not shown in the original pictures
     
  16. razorblaydesjr

    razorblaydesjr Active Member

  17. Kentucky

    Kentucky Well-Known Member

    Sorry, that one is mine, didn't mean to horn in, but always enjoy showing it.
     
  18. jfreakofkorn

    jfreakofkorn Well-Known Member

    the first one looks like it was buried at some time ( or am I seeing it wrong ) ... ?
     
  19. buddy16cat

    buddy16cat Well-Known Member

    One coin is the OP's coin and one is Kentucky's. They are totally different coins. The OP's coin has a lot of details left. Better than most that are out there. It is corroded but you have to take it's age and scarcity into consideration.
     
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  20. mark_h

    mark_h Somewhere over the rainbow

    Looks like an S-21. I would probably net it at F/VF details. Just my opinion.
     
  21. DieHard11

    DieHard11 Member

    Both coins have the head of a '95. The first one shows a 5 under the 4.
     
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