Just got the elusive 1916 Barber Half....

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  1. cpm9ball

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    Don't you mean because the loophole in the law makes it unnecessary? The law should be fixed!

    Chris
     
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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    The law should not be "fixed", because it's not "broken".

    If you disagree, it's an issue for you to take up with your legislators, although trying to win more converts here certainly remains fair game.

    From the actual text of the Hobby Protection Act:

    You feel that these altered coins "could reasonably purport to be" an actual, rare, high-grade Barber half. I feel that a coin dated 1916 cannot "reasonably purport to be" an actual Barber half of any sort.

    Has a 1916 Barber half ever been used in exchange or used to commemorate anything? Nope.

    Have 1894-S dimes, for example? Yep. Making one of them, even as an overstrike, would clearly violate the law unless it displays the COPY mark.

    What about 1913 Liberty nickels or 1933 double eagles? Good question.
     
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  4. cpm9ball

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    That's your opinion!

    Do you know how Jingjuashei was able to circumvent the Chinese law that enabled him to forgo using the word "Replica" on his US coin counterfeits? There was a small loophole in the law which did not require him to put the word "Replica" on any of them if he sold them only in the Asian market. Once they were no longer in his possession, the middlemen could sell them anywhere they chose.

    So, in my opinion, it is small loopholes like the one Mr. Carr is using that will end up opening the floodgates.

    Chris
     
  5. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    And yours is objective fact, of course, because that's how opinions work, right?

    My statements reflect my opinions, just as yours reflect your own. I assumed everyone following along at home already realized this.

    In my opinion, Mr. Carr is not tampering with any floodgates, and is not "taking advantage of a loophole" that allows him to circumvent the spirit of the law. As you have clearly indicated, your opinion differs.
     
  6. cpm9ball

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    You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink!

    Chris
     
  7. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    "Chinese law" is designed to have such loopholes to allow its booming counterfeit industry to bring more money into the country.
     
  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Yeah, at this point, it's pretty clear that neither of us are very thirsty. ;)
     
  9. cpm9ball

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    If that were the case, then why would they have a law requiring "REPLICA" on any coins at all? Your logic is flawed.

    Chris
     
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  10. cpm9ball

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    Is that the best you can come up with? Just another COPY artist!

    Chris
     
  11. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Not exactly, unless they are counterfeits of Chinese coins there is no enforcement. Otherwise those laws are to quell the protest of other countries, but again that loophole is there because at the end of the day, they want that money influx.
    If they were serious the law would require the stamp on all coins sold everywhere.
     
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  12. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I resent that implication. Anyone who's seen me try to draw anything will tell you that I'm no artist of any stripe.
     
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  13. cpm9ball

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    Well, I have to admit that you did make me crack a smile.

    Chris
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Well, then, my work here is done.

    Before I turn into that stick-figure guy, I'm going to go out for a long bike ride in the nice weather. I'm sure someone will keep the thread open for me until I return... ;)
     
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  15. cpm9ball

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    My point is that these loopholes can and will be circumvented without stricter laws and enforcement.

    Chris
     
  16. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Yes, but there will be no stricter laws and enforcement as counterfeiting is one of the biggest money makers in Asia.
     
  17. cpm9ball

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    I'm referring to stricter laws in the US.

    Chris
     
  18. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Ah I see, we were talking apples and oranges apparently
     
  19. Vegas Vic

    Vegas Vic Undermedicated psychiatric patient

    True. Please stop peeing in the water. no one wants to drink from the water when you act like this.
     
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  20. cpm9ball

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    It's not hard to do when there is post after post after post after.......you get the drift.

    Chris
     
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  21. cpm9ball

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    You have your opinion, and I have mine. As long as I feel this way, I will continue to voice my opinion. If you don't want to read my comments, you have every right to ignore me.

    Chris
     
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