I Finally Found a Wide Rim SBA! Value??

Awesome find coinman, I've not found one of these yet, but haven't actively looked much either, very cool.

Agreed. There is a very noticable difference between coinman's and homers. Coinmain's appears to be a wide rim.

 

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Ya'll are probably right. I have dozens of regular and 6 close or wide rim. Had 5 wides till a couple weeks ago. Who knows which one I took a picture of. They are all in the same bag.

 

LOL! Sounds like you're using the phankins11 system of organization and order

 

Pick one.

 

Nice stack

 

Actually all 6 of the top are wides. I used a loupe and had someone else confirm it this time

 

I can see that now...I didn't look hard enough. Cool indeed.

 

Huh?

Sorry, but the "wide rim" is really a misnomer since it's all about how close the "date" is to the rim. "Near Date" is the more correct name.

To me at least.

 

Look at the coin @phankins11 circled. Then compare it to the 2 directly under it.

 

I think you'd be in the minority.

The Red Book refers to it as wide and narrow rim and parenthetically as (near and far date).

Also...

http://www.smalldollars.com/dollar/page29.html

 

If you look at enough of them it is easy to see the change that was made. The size of the coin, size and position of the bust and date, are the same on all of them. I think of the rim as a raised mostly flat shelf as on most other coins. The rim or flat part of the rim didn't change.
The dodecagon part of the rim is actually a design element of the coin. It is a taper or it begins flush with the rim and slopes down from the rim to near flush with the field. This is the part of the coin that was changed by narrowing that element.

 

...by widening that element...

Read the quote in post #30. The border was narrow then changed to wide.

 

I don't want to hijack coinman's thread and I'll remove it if he wants. I haven't looked at these coins in several years and while doing so for a picture here, I ran across one that I had forgotten. It is a strike through of a wire edge off a previously struck coin. I have seen many strike throughs that resembles this one, and have one on a bicentennial half that I previously posted here. First one that I saw on the rim and was the clue that lead me to from where they came. It goes about halfway around the coin.
I could be wrong though, have been once before. Is it posible for a collar clash to cross the rim?

 

It's getting late.

 

Near date is still a better term because if the obverse die is slightly misaligned you can have near dates with narrow rims or far dates with wide rims.

 

If the stars align. .......jk

 

Now that is awesome! You are right, those are certainly wide rims!

 

Perfectly fine with me! I have no problem with anyone asking something slightly off-topic on my thread. In fact, I thought it was very cool to see everyone elses coins and info.

 

Also, That looks like it could be a collar clash I hope so! It looks very similar to what I have seen online.

(Not my photo)


(Sorry for posting three posts in a row all within a five minute time)

 

This is my thought and correct me if I'm wrong. I have seen many pictures of what people, and even the die variety experts call collar clashes. If the die strikes the collar and leaves an incuse design of the collar on the die, shouldn't that same design be in relief on the coin? This is what leads me to believe it is a strike through. Experts please chime in.