Two new Greeks

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by dougsmit, May 7, 2015.

  1. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Tomorrow will be a week since I went to that show and I still have a couple newp's not shown. They differ greatly. First is a standard 16.9g AR tetradrachm of Thasos of the Dionysos/Herakles type. I believe this is official but there are so many barbarous ones it is always hard to be sure. I'm happier with the coin than the photo.
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    Second is a Greek AE17 of Skepsis which I have seen described as the forepart of a winged horse with a cornucopia but I prefer the other interpretation calling it a rhyton. These come in several sizes. This is 4.17g. The reverse shows a tree in a square with letters Sigma Kappa. What is left of the square?

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  3. ancientnut

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  4. IdesOfMarch01

    IdesOfMarch01 Well-Known Member

    A winged thunderbolt being held by someone...
     
  5. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Very nice coins and good score. I don't have any of these to post. Maybe in the future.
     
  6. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Well, well, well. Two very nice scores, either of which could come home with me.
     
  7. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    I agree it seems to be a thunderbolt..... I LOVE your newest pick-ups Doug... and Bing took the words right out of my mouth again!!!

    I have one new Greek issue which I posted a bit earlier and two RR denarii---and now I'm on the side lines, on the bench, just watching and not participating until the end of the month...Double damn the BUDGET!

    Silver Drachm of the Nymph Larissa, forward facing, Horse grazing left: Thessaly, 350-320 BC
    SNG COP.123, 6.11g

    larissa obverse.JPG Larissa drachm reverse grazing horse.JPG
     
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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Nice coin Mikey. It can come home with me as well. Come here little coin. I have candy at home......
     
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  9. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Bing, you're a pisser!!
     
  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Lovely coins Doug. You obviously had a great show.
     
  11. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    That's a very nicely centred larger bronze from Skepsis. I'm on the lookout for one of these.
     
  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    I like the theory that this coin does not show a horse grazing but one in process of rolling down on the ground. If you look at enough of the coins, you see more of the motion sequence.
     
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  13. rzage

    rzage What Goes Around Comes Around .

    Beautiful coins , I still have to get my 1st Greek coin .
     
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  14. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Excellent newps yet again Doug. ;)

    Must ask but why does it look like there are two horses?
     
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Very sweet additions, Doug => man, I absolutely adore that Skepsis (or rhyton?)

    .... yup, that one is very cool (I'm jealous)

    :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  16. brassnautilus

    brassnautilus Well-Known Member

  17. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    That's what I was thinkin'.
     
  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Could be a double-strike? ... but it looks a bit more likely that the "artist"
    was trying to be a bit fancy and going for a 3D effect, for the other items on the coin don't seem to be ddoouubblleedd?

    => for example, I have an example that shows the same type of doubled-leg ... I think the artists are trying to show the details and/or muscles in the horses legs?

    ancienthorseb.jpg double horse.JPG

    ... but who knows, eh?

    Oh, and this is what a real horse looks like (note the back legs) ...

    ;)

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  19. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Maybe, it's got some "cude" under the horses' belly?
     
  20. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Remember these coins were not struck with a collar. What you're all seeing is what I like to call a sliding strike. The die slides a little bit as it strikes the flan, creating a ghost image in one direction.
     
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  21. Mikey Zee

    Mikey Zee Delenda Est Carthago

    Hmmmm, I thought Steve definitely nailed the precise answer to what I thought was a bit of a double strike on my circulated/worn fine-grade drachm....but JA makes an interesting point.
     
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