Reverse proof Roosevelt dime most significant coin of century.

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by bkozak33, May 4, 2015.

  1. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Nothing like lumping everyone in a certain profession together and then having a negative attitude about that group; you are a very kind and courteous person. Regardless, I find it fascinating that you buy at estate auctions yet claim to never deal with a dealer when in fact estate auctions are dealers.
     
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  3. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    No, the dealers (and around here we all know them well by sight) are the guys sitting three seats over at the very same auction I'm at, with exactly the same kind of bidder number I have. It's not even hard to figure their desired retail markup - all you do is watch slow starting lots and see at what price they bail.
     
  4. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    If you sell a coin then you act as a dealer.
     
  5. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    We're not talking "coin auctions" here, sonny. We're talking back country rural areas with an auctioneer who will be selling tobacco lots in September. We're talking a locality where more homes sell by auction than through realtors.
     
  6. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    It's an estate auction likely run by a licensed company to sell used or new goods at auction. That's a dealer. You can try to hide behind semantics all you want, but your invective shines through and it is not a handsome look.
     
  7. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Whatever. Oh, by the way, I also spent over 35 (redid the math) years in the photography field, so yeah, I don't need any numismatic photography either.
     
  8. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Okay?
     
  9. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    It frankly never occurred to me that "numismatic photography" could ever be its own "thing". Congrats on that at least. Well marketed.
     
  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Sarcasm! The only way to communicate!
     
  11. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Just sayin', I've been photographing coins on slides with a Micro-Nikkor since the 1970's and now it's a whole separate profession? Who knew?
     
  12. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Auctioneers: All the buying opportunity of a coin dealer, just a whole lot less attitude, pretense and abuse.
     
  13. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Though I have been involved in photography myself, off and on, since the late 1970s, I can't claim to have been clever enough to start this niche. There are, however, at least two wonderful books on the subject. One by Gerald Hoberman titled The Art of Coins and Their Photography and the other by my friend Mark Goodman aptly titled Numismatic Photography. The Hoberman book might be from the 1970s so it is getting a bit long in the tooth while the Goodman book is recent.

    Some people go to photographers for family portraits because they do not want to take them on their own or they do not want to invest in the equipment; some people buy vegetables at a farmer's market because they are not inclined to grow their own; some folks go to a local mechanic or Midas shop to get the oil changed in their car because they might have no interest in doing so themselves while others use a photographer for images of their coins for the same, or similar reasons. It's just a service that many folks offer to various degrees of thoroughness.
     
  14. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Oh sure, and from what I see, you're very very good at it. (My avatar pic is a "selfie" done with Novatron lights and Portra 160 film in a Hasselblad.) You've stumbled across a guy who TRIES to do as much as possible himself. I grow my own veggies AND do the farmer's market. I change my own oil. I represent myself in court. I win there. I only wish I could do my own surgery. "Suture self, I'd call it." :D Something deeply ingrained in me makes me want to avoid middlemen whenever possible.
     
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  15. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    That's no excuse! :D
     
  16. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Thank you! Good shot for a selfie, too.
     
  17. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    This thread has derailed a bit off topic. So to bring it back a bit, I would just like to say that I think the RP Rosies will fall in line with the other significant pattern coins of the 18th century. This coin will be highly sought after in the future. How many will survive? This is a coin to put away and let it appreciate over time.
     
  18. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    Well, it's now about 5 years and one cerebral hemorrhage out of date.
     
  19. V. Kurt Bellman

    V. Kurt Bellman Yes, I'm blunt! Get over your "feeeeelings".

    No way. The first part of your prediction is hogwash. The last line is spot on. These can never be of pattern level. Speaking strictly for me, the W regular proof is the better piece than the Philly RP. I think RP's are a silly fad. "Colored coin light" is how I view 'em.
     
  20. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Bkozak33 is my hero and he's never wrong, and he's always serious, and right. Always right.
     
  21. galapac

    galapac Seeking Knowledge

    Hey! I resemble that remark.
    It all depends on what you stack and when...
    ...and this coming from someone whose mood sign is "educated".
     
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