Roman Republican ID Help

I bought a Roman Republican denarius I thought would be a cinch to ID even though it is in rough condition. The legend on the reverse is readable as "P SERVEILI M--". For the life of me, this coin is not the easy coin I thought. All the references on line show a coin with the Dioscuri reverse as C. Servilius M.f. Denarius, but the obverse shows a wreath. This coin shows a lituus behind the helmeted head of Roma. Help will be greatly appreciated

 

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It looks like an obverse of a C. Servilius Vatia denarius with reverse of C. Servilius M.f. denarius.

I hate to bring up the F word again but there are concerns...

 

Hey TIF. I was afraid someone would say that word, but I think you are correct. This coin was practically free so I'm not so worried. This was one of those I did prior research and couldn't ID it at that time so was intrigued. Curiosity killed the cat.

 

Fouree mules exist. Just sayin'.

 

True, but the similarity of names makes me think the fraudist (is that a word? fraudulent artist ) simply mixed up his Serviliuses.

Also, the fabric doesn't look right nor does the lettering, which has a very modern cast (pardon the pun).

Usual disclaimer: I am often wrong

 

It looks cast to me as well, but I feel sorry for Bing. Strike two.

 

I've never known you to be wrong.

Don't feel sorry. And this is much beyond strike two. I have often gone out on a limb only to find the coin was a fake. However, in all but one case did the seller's give me a refund without a fight. In all cases I received refunds.

Both the Nero and this RR were purchased knowing full well they might be fakes. It's one thing to buy a coin believing it to be genuine and then finding otherwise. That was not the case with both these coins.

 

Spoken like a successfully married man.

 

Well, TIF and JA make me believe it is probably a 'cast' as well----but then again, I thought your Nero coin was genuine....

Please disregard this message LOL

 

Man, I didn't realize it. I'M A PARROT!

 

I was looking for my morning laugh. Thanks, JA!

 

only said it's 18mm, no weight

 

Is this a coin for sale? There are too many similarieties to include the mark on the hind quarter of the left horse. The coin I posted is 3.3g, 18mm.

 

it's here
http://www.forumancientcoins.com/gallery/thumbnails.php?album=4634

they seemed to share a little more than a die match?

 

I don't know if it's a fake or not Bing.

Here's a pic of my M. F. Servilia for comparison. My coin has the same reverse of the Dioscuri galloping in opposite directions, but the obverse is quite different.

MF Servilia 1; Rmn Rpblc BC 136
Silver Denarius; 21mm/3.9 g
OBV: Head of Roma
REV: Dioscuri Galloping in opposite directions

 

i think that mark is just the hind leg of the horse, as RBs coin pretty much as it also. man, i don't know.