1936 Nickel DDO DDR?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by Mirza Beck, Apr 29, 2015.

  1. Mirza Beck

    Mirza Beck Member

    Hello Friends , I just opened a roll and out comes this US history. I think its a DDO DDR in one coin with a few nice features I am sharing here.

    1. I am seeing on the obverse on the coin at 5:00pm a DIM rectangle box with serial numbers.
    2. Possible overdate with a 1935 hidden behind the 1936 (in some pic I took I can see the top of the 5 sticking out) I'' work on the pic some more as time allows me to.

    3.The ground where the Buffalo is standing the Ledge like area has letters and numbers printed on it as well.

    I this coin worth grading? Anything special enough?
    Has anyone heard of a Nickel of this year with DDO and DDR in ONE coin?

    Appreciate your views.

    God Bless
    Beck. Excell photo 1936 DDO DDR Nickel.JPG RSCN8517.JPG RSCN8481.JPG DDR best pic.JPG 1930 or 1935 over 1936.JPG RSCN8515.JPG Excell photo 1936 DDO DDR Nickel.JPG Excell photo 1936 DDO DDR Nickel.JPG Excell photo 1936 DDO DDR Nickel.JPG
     
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  3. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    It appears you spent a bit of time writing this post, but with images that have such little use it is impossible for anyone to confirm anything you wrote. My gut, and my experience, are telling me you have a typical, circulated 1936 Buffalo nickel. Good luck.
     
  4. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I do see something in the date. From your images it's tough. Shoot some new image's and I will give you a better explanation on what's going on . Try to get more light on the subject , your images are to dark to make out anything under the date or other features .
     
  5. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    There are images in the 3&6 when you enlarge picture 5 I see what looks to be an L in the 3 and a 5 or 6 under the 6.
    This may need to be submitted to James Wiles for a new variety . Post me some new image's and let's see from there.
     
  6. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    An L in the 3? How do you gather from that?
     
  7. heavycam.monstervam

    heavycam.monstervam Outlaw Trucker & Coin Hillbilly

    There IS something in the date digits! It looks RE-Cut at the very least... Clash ?? Repunched? It needs looked at in a better light so to speak! (Photos) Paddy54 is THE MAN especially when it comes nickels my friend! You shiuld listen to him i would put him at the top 5-10 nickel VARIETY guys in the ENTIRE COUNTRY!!!:bored::)
     
  8. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    after some research Yes your 36 buffalo is an WDDO-002 From the PUP's I can see the obv. This is the strongest known class VI DDO for Buffalo nickels, it has an URS of 7 value in AU is $150.+. I will need better images to see the rev. details.
     
  9. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    Seems like the only pickup for WDDO-002 is a die scratch running through the bottom of IC in AMERICA. And I would think that WDDO-001 is a bit stronger by appearance. How can you verify that it is WDDO-002 with the poor quality of photos of the reverse?

    This is where I am getting my info from. http://doubleddie.com/1130529.html
     
  10. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Thank Heavy , I copied the op image cleaned it up some ,and could see what was needed to make the call. As there are other areas that can be seen as PUP 's on this one. There are devices in the date a scope would define them better. As for the person you were addressing that troll been on an iggy for over a year now! Pay it no mind... I don't . .... it's just full of nonsense .
     
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  11. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    I see no way to confirm die 2. Have to have better images. Patty, I think you are confusing dies 1 & 2, concerning strength. Die 1 is way stronger, and is a CPG variety.
     
  12. Mirza Beck

    Mirza Beck Member

    Allright, I'll retake some more pic..just give me time to do that. I did some quick search on the net and found on Google that this exact same DATE area is known as the TALL DATE issue a cherry picker guide insert.Again the date area matchs completley....and this coin is showing DDR and DDO as well. The date on regular strikes is very different .There is seperation on 1 9 3 6 here on the one I am showing the DATE area is blended together and bit Taller so the post as I see on Google the The Tall Date varaiety. I do see the 5 behind the 6 but to verify I'll need more pic.Thanks for your input on the coin. In the past I did buy a whole lot of buffalo nickels and I do have another one sitting in the bank vault like MS grade thats also a DDO and DDR in one.Massive doubling on that one. I again retry some pic but its going to take some time when I get a chance. Again, Thanks for your advise. The coin here seems also to have writing on the buffalo reverse and front where there should be none. Is that a Die Clash or something I hope ADDs to the value..

    God Bless
    Beck
     
  13. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Well Jay that's your opinion and I respect that and there's a possibility I could be wrong , however I'm sticking to my decision . I hope the op post some better images. I also would like to meet him at a show to scope the coin date and other areas that are in question .
    Once again nothing surprises me when it come to coins.
    I will also admit some of my references are way out of date as well as have errors in print that now have been changed on the author Web site's .

    We shall see :)
     
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  14. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    You are welcome Beck, I love to see the coin in hand. I noticed you live in DC . I live close and I'm in DC several times a week. There's also a coin show in June in Annapolis Md. An easy commute as the show is right off route 50 east. Less than a mile.
     
  15. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Don't get me wrong Paddy. I'm not trying to argue about whether or not it IS die 2. It very well could be. I just can't tell . Liberty looks similar, but the date doesn't look any thicker, and it should. But, it could just be the pics. I would like to see a clear, close image of America to see if the die scratch is present.
     
  16. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    How can anyone see anything in these pictures?
     
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  17. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    Jay Np really and again no argument you are entitled to your view and me mine . Hopefully we will solve this when the op post better images. There's no hard feelings here heck it's a discussion over a coin not a life or death decision . I would love to scope this coin, as she's hidden something in that date. Again it's all good we learn better from our mistakes then triumph's. :)
     
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  18. jay4202472000

    jay4202472000 Well-Known Member

    Any update or new images?
     
  19. Paddy54

    Paddy54 Well-Known Member

    I believe he said he post it on Monday
     
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  20. Mirza Beck

    Mirza Beck Member

    Friends I conclude just myself that I do see a 5 over the 6 but its a worn used old coin ....and its hard to clearly make out the pic without more sophisticated equipment. I have now taken many more pic and to myself I do see myself that there is a 5 over the 6..
    What is is worth? I can't say... a expert might say well its very used DDO DDR in one coin with the overdate issue.
    Again...I am concluding this post about the 1935 over 1936 Nickel with these NEW images.
    Its the Best I can do at the moment.
    I have many more finds just came in...let move onwards.

    God Bless
    Beck.
    PS:Let me know if....to send in for Authentication list.
     

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  21. non_cents

    non_cents Well-Known Member

    I'm still not seeing the doubling but I don't have the coin in-hand. If you believe you see something, send it in to an attributor and let us know the results.
     
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