Help me understand how PCGS says this is NT

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  1. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    i put all my bids in this morning. you need to start bidding strong right now. show them who's the boss.
     
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  3. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    My experience has been that I win significantly more by bidding at the end. When I bid early, I almost always lose. I have seen an underbidder cast several bids a few dollars apart until figuring out my high bid. It really stinks to lose and presumably by only a few dollars.
     
  4. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Whoever wins the coin, once you have it, call or email CAC and ask them what they will offer you for the coin.

    I'm betting THAT would be a sobering experience ;)
     
  5. Pickin and Grinin

    Pickin and Grinin Well-Known Member

    $1550 someone loved it.
     
  6. C G Memminger

    C G Memminger Active Member

    Fantastic rainbows happen. AT techniques tend to leave telltale signs (color patterns/sequences, chemical residues, impaired patina, etc). You will notice this coin is toned on obverse only, and in a circular pattern, leaving an un-toned obverse center. Not an easy task for a coin doctor. You will also notice the coin retains a beautiful patina, which is often lost when a coin doctor applies (in some fashion) sulfur and a catalyst.

    I've seen a collection of incredible rainbows as beautiful and even more beautiful than this one. Part of private collection of John Albanese, co-founder of PCGS and NGC, and the founder of CAC.

    This one looks real to me.
     
  7. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    Really, I just went to site and it sold for $1,550.00, $1,705.00 with premium. WOW, is it because of the unique feature of the coin ? Explain NT and GC please to the Newbe, thanks.
     
  8. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    The toning is the ONLY reason it went so high, but i dont think anyone imagined that high.
    NT is natural toning. AT is artificial toning. GC means Great Collections auction website.
     
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  9. Colonialjohn

    Colonialjohn Active Member

    Sunnywood ... brilliant IMO on his NT thread.

    John Lorenzo
    Numismatist
    United States
     
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  10. bear32211

    bear32211 Always Learning

    Thanks for all the information, again as a newbe want to learn everything I can .
     
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  11. CHUCKCXB

    CHUCKCXB Active Member

    final $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$ $1,550.00 ($1,705.00 with Buyer's Fee)
     
  12. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Now there's a real coin collector. :D
     
  13. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    So does anyone think this coin will be on ebay within a week for $2500?
     
  14. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    I dont think so.
     
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  15. brg5658

    brg5658 Well-Known Member

    They'd happily offer you a generic blast-white price from their "magical sheet" for that! :D
     
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  16. handsomeblueboy

    handsomeblueboy Kentuckyman

    About 99% of my coins are raw I will not pay some inflated price for someone to but their suggested grade onit and then put in a holder. The best thing about the holder is the fact it keeps the coin from getting messed up.
     
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  17. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    The buyer is an idiot if he or she presumed that CAC's bid would be anywhere near that. My guess is that CAC might offer $100.
     
  18. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    I think it is pretty much maxed out. And I say that as someone who made what I thought was a nuclear bid (i.e. stupid money) because I liked the coin.
     
  19. Coinchemistry 2012

    Coinchemistry 2012 Well-Known Member

    That's only the hammer and does not include buyer's premium.
     
  20. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    Why would he take it CAC to sell it? He could take that coin to any show and have several dealers fighting over it. You seem very out of touch with the coin market.
     
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  21. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Lol. Really, I think he's just poking a little fun at CAC's guarantee. It is a crock, let's face it. They'll buy them, but at their price. Hell, I'll buy them all day long at my price, too.
     
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