Thoughts on this ebay auction bidding

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by beef1020, Apr 11, 2015.

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Shill bidding

  1. Yes

    15 vote(s)
    65.2%
  2. No

    5 vote(s)
    21.7%
  3. Maybe

    3 vote(s)
    13.0%
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  1. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

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  3. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    The amount is not high enough to mess around with shill bidding IMHO.

    Total bids: [​IMG]525
    Items bid on: [​IMG]130
    Bid activity (%) with this seller: [​IMG]2%
    Bid retractions: [​IMG]22
    Bid retractions (6 months): [​IMG]96

    Just another moron.
     
  4. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    I say yes because after he determined what your max bid was, he retracted, and then bid one last time to make sure you paid what you did.
     
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  5. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    I say shill bid and you may want to cancel your bid if it isn't something dear to your heart.
     
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  6. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    without a doubt.
     
  7. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm sure there are plenty of folks on eBay who do have common sense, even though they lack principles, and either engage rent-a-shills or run a farm of accounts to avoid the obvious "100% activity with this seller" flag.
     
  8. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    I'm not sure what im going to do. I'm not upset with the final price, it was my max bid, but im just upset on the principle.
     
  9. H8_modern

    H8_modern Attracted to small round-ish art

    I'd be angry about the tactic too and cancel.
     
  10. Tinpot

    Tinpot Well-Known Member

    Bid activity of only 2% makes it rather unlikely that its a shill bid, still possible but unlikely.
     
  11. Taxidermist

    Taxidermist Collector of US/IL/RU/DE

    It might be a shill bid, but I`ve seen something different a couple of times. An a*hole who already bid his max, checking out the max bid of the buyer who is about to win the lot, and bids accordingly to rise the price to the maximum, thus making the buyer "pay" for winning the lot. A revenge of sorts to punish someone who bid more than his maximum by rising the price.

    Technically it is not a shill bid, if I understand the term correctly. True shill bidding helps out the seller maximize the sale, not punishing the highest bidder.
     
  12. d.t.menace

    d.t.menace Member

    It sure looks like a shill.
    I question why ebay allows a bidder to have that many bid retractions in a month (22). I've never retracted a bid and the only reason would be if I entered a bid with the decimal in the wrong place.
    Do bidders actually make that many mistakes? Is there a legit reason to retract bids other than a mistake?
     
  13. humma3800

    humma3800 Member

    offer the seller a price you're happy with ,if he says no walk away.
    you don't have to pay your last bid.And 22 retracted bids unaceptable.
     
  14. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I'm going to remember this thread the next time someone complains about sniping.
     
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  15. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Exactly. I normally put my bit in during the last 10 seconds, but I knew I would be busy when this auction ended so I put in my max bid early.
     
  16. Bill1517

    Bill1517 Active Member

    go for it....
     
  17. Burton Strauss III

    Burton Strauss III Brother can you spare a trime? Supporter

    It's certainly an odd pattern. No way to prove more than stupidity on the part of the bidder, though....


    The new eBay mobile app for android makes this kind of walk up a $1 bidding too easy. The bid of the increment is the big box and the data on current and whether you are winning or not is smaller and easy to overlook...
     
  18. Agilmore01

    Agilmore01 Well-Known Member

    Speaking of retracted bids, I have a $4 raw mercury dime ending in a few hours and it had 4 bids and 29 retracted bids. What in the world???? For a $4 coin? I never saw retracted bids on my items until recently. Other buyers may think I am the shill bidder on my own auction, but it's not me. So, on the original post, it may be something out of the seller's control.
     
  19. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    I think that the under bidder was simply trying to find out how much the coin was going to cost him and then decided to back out.

    I think I'd be a little pissed.
     
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  20. bkozak33

    bkozak33 Collector

    I have a complaint about sniping. I always forget to to do it.
     
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  21. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    But then after he retracted his bit, he bid again exactly at my max.
     
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