California federal judge rules against government in 1974-D aluminum cent case

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Good news.

 

Boy the government is dumb, the pyschos can't let anything go, have to get their grubby paws on every last dollar.

 

Thanks for posting, Ken

 

It is interesting what goes on with the federal government's thinking. The 1974 aluminum cents are "illegal" but the 2000-dated gold Sacagawea dollars that were flown into space and returned were minted and not authorized by Congress, but these coins were donated to the Smithsonian Institution just to cover their "illegal" decision and that makes it OK.

Moral relativism in coin manufacture and legal tender status.

 

And they are spending our tax dollars to go after these type of coins.

 

We will never know the true story. Certainly the plaintiffs have done nothing wrong. I also believe that the coin could have been given as a gift.

Still, did the father's boss have the right to give him the coin as a gift? Federal ethics laws prohibit it now. Not sure about 1974.

I personally believe our tax dollars should not be used to create artifical rarities to line the pockets of mint employees.

 

I have a feeling that this is far from over. The goverment always seems to win these cases eventually. Remember the saga of the 1933 double eagles?

 

I think you are reading A LOT more into this ruling than it really means. A summary judgement would have meant that there wasn't even a case to present.

All this means is that the facts as presented so far, IF taken in the most favorable way might favor the plaintiffs, so lets go to trial and determine the facts.

 

The coin or coins minted in 1974 in aluminum were never released by the U.S.Mint or by the Fed's . Thus it's stolen property . End of story. You can't take or give items that aren't your's away. Yes it's only a cent but worth how much? I pity the fool who buys it. As one should never underestimate the Federal government .
As before nada was said until..... when....oh right the coin was graded and a quest to it's value.
There's no one here can convince me if property of yours was taken that you would not want it back.
And the strange thing is..... it is your property if you pay Federal taxes in the US. Sorry my view it government property no matter how it left the mint.

 

The coin shouldn't have left the mint. I dislike seeing higher ups get rich because they don't follow the rules of their company. I hope the government retrieves this without spending too much more of our $ and melts it back down.

 

Summary judgments are almost never granted. When someone papers the court with this frivolous motion, it is to create an extra burden on the respondent. The motion means there is no triable issue of fact. There is always a triable issue of fact, even if far fetched.

 

Hey, none of Pa. samples given to those grub worms in congress were ever returned. Where's the witch-hunt for those?

 

I thought that the Treasury Department could mint whatever "Gold" coins they felt like minting without Congressional Approval. This is how the .999 Fine Gold Kennedy Half Dollar came into being.

IMO, the Gold Sacagawea Dollars are completely legal regardless of where they reside.

 

Kinda what with filing fee's and what not but, the Federal Attorney's collect a salary regardless of what they work on. Just as ling as they are working.

Right?

 

You mean where the intentionally chose to ignore certain aspects of the daily operations at the US Mint?

Like the 1933 $10 Gold coins?

 

I was talking about the double eagles reportedly brokered by Switt from a mint employee then seized decades later by the secret service after a very long court battle. The coins are now in the smithsonian.

 

Slight correction.

This is a 1974 "D" coin which, according to US Mint Records, does not exist since the supposed "Trial Strikes", or "Test Strikes" were "Philly coins.

Hey, on the subject of folks getting "rich" off of US Mint Rarities, how much do you think the Jack Nicklaus "Congressionally mandated" Gold medal will fetch when it eventually goes to market? 1 of a kind.

 

I know what you were talking about but the US Mint also minted 1933 Eagle Gold coins which were subject to being melted due to the 1933 Gold Presidential Executive Order. Only 30-35 examples are known to exist.

 

I'm with you now. For that matter how is any pattern coin legal to own? I have nearly thirty of them and none of these were ever "released" to the public excluding the patterns that were traded for the half union.