Need Help with Split Solder Italian State Coin "Sardinian"

Discussion in 'World Coins' started by 49ers, Apr 3, 2015.

  1. 49ers

    49ers Junior Member

    1822 5 lire Help edge.JPG edgefront.JPG edgeback.JPG

    I had this coin for a long time and it was always carded until I saw some PVC damage on the coin. When I took the coin out of the flip I noticed the coin seems to be soldered along the edge. How and why would someone split a coin down the middle? I tested the two sides of the coin with silver acid testing solution on the puriTest testing stone and the two sides showed red which is positive for .900 silver. The middle soldered tested negative. This coin should weigh 25 grams, but mine weighs 24.45 grams.
     
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  3. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Possibly split so the solder would hold better? Don't know what they were thinking and it's only a guess.
     
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  4. 49ers

    49ers Junior Member

    Someone making a fake would not do this or use real silver coins? Thank you
     
  5. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I doubt it. Probably a home handyman w/o a lot of knowledge on soldering or maybe not using flux so it would not stick.
     
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  6. 49ers

    49ers Junior Member

    Do I have authentic coin but damaged with a mystery behind it?
    That also makes this hobby fun and exciting because there are stories and sometimes a mystery behind every coin.
     
  7. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    I think it was used in jewelry of some type. That why looks like the been cut a bezel will leave marks loolooking like it was halfed.solder was used to cover up lines or to hold it in the piece of jewelry.
     
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  8. 49ers

    49ers Junior Member

    You could be correct that would explain why the coin tested positive for silver and the solder didn't. So the coin is not a fake but just damaged, I fine with that because it's a real nice coin. Thank you
     
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  9. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    edge-1.jpg Once I seen the letter or engraving on rim still in line I didn't think it had been cut.
     
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  10. 49ers

    49ers Junior Member

    Interesting, they do seemed to be lined up. Maybe, it was grooved for some of the silver and soldered over. Isn't that why we went from smooth edge to reeded to stop shaving off silver.
     
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  11. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    A point well taken. How many of us have had rings re-sized only to walk out the door without asking for the cut out silver/gold?
     
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  12. 49ers

    49ers Junior Member

    I believe Jello found the answer because I looked over the edge and the wording line up around the coin. Also, the weight difference is little 25G true weight - 24.5 G my coin. Then the age time frame 1822 people were shaving silver off coins.
     
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  13. 49ers

    49ers Junior Member

    It makes sense about sharing, grooving the edge for silver. On Numismatic Guaranty corporation the coin values from $475.00, $2,400, $4,300

    In my opinion the coin is in great shape if it was not for the damage. It's fine with me I'm just glad to own a interesting piece history even if it's worth nothing. I had fun researching and discussing ideas with the members yesterday. That's what our coin hobby should be about is having fun, sharing and discussing idea's and opinions together. Thanks, Steve
     
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