Magnus Maximus AE-2

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  1. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    Yeah, if you are cool with the coin and what you paid then all is well in the kingdom :)
     
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  3. dougsmit

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    MM was not a long reigning ruler and not an inconsequential nobody prince. He was the kind of guy that belongs in every general collection. His bronzes are not easy to find in mint state. Finding a better AE2 for less than $100 might take some looking. I know what I have said is a challenge to the cheapskates among us (that includes me!) so lets get out there and find some better ones.
    I'll start with the same coin sold twice by CNG. One sale says green patina while the other says brown. Cleaning added $40. It is still as good as I've seen and probably worth the price.
    http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=106936
    http://www.cngcoins.com/Coin.aspx?CoinID=165613
     
  4. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

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  5. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    The reverse is type 18 on the RIC IX page:

    http://esty.ancients.info/ricix/type18i.html

    There are three examples there.
    He is very difficult to find in great shape. If you just want one Magnus Maximus to fill the hole in your list, he is not hard to find. If you want a nice one, $100 is not a bad price. If you want an excellent one, be prepared to wait a very long time and compete for it when it appears.
    In US coins everyone knows that quality costs. A coin a bit nicer than a nice coin that someone else has could cost several times as much. Until I see someone showing us his or her better Magnus Maximus AE2, I will regard the original coin posted by MM here as one of the best and worthy of a significant premium over what lesser examples would bring.
     
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  6. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    It seems that most available are from Spain and have sand patinas. Where are the ones from British finds with better surfaces?
     
  7. Alisdair

    Alisdair New Member

  8. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

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  9. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Awesome!
    Magnus Maximus is a very interesting character in the Later Roman Empire.
    Here is a very good article on him.http://www.luc.edu/roman-emperors/madmax.htm
    Magnus was the last great Emperor to hold any significant power in the Western Empire. After him the Empire mainly got a bunch of child Emperors hiding behind the walls of Ravenna.
     
  10. sgt23

    sgt23 Active Member

    MM?
     
  11. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    MM = Magnus Maximus
     
  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

  13. Alisdair

    Alisdair New Member

    A bit more digging has allowed me to identify the fourth and early fifth century sources:

    http://www.lateromanbronzecoins.com/magnus-maximus-more-sources/

    As far as sources are concerned, I've seen the following:

    Early sources (fourth and early fifth century):

    Ammianus Marcellinus – Rerum Gestarum Libri Qui Supersunt XXXI.4.9
    Orosius – Historium adversum paganos VII.34
    Pacatus – Panegyricus Latini Pacati Deprani Dictus Theodosio
    Prosper (Tiro) of Aquitaine Chronicon
    Socrates Scholasticus – Historia Ecclesiastica V.8; V.11
    Sozomen – Historia Ecclesiastica VII.13
    Sulpicius Severus – Dialogi II.6
    Sulpicius Severus Dialogi III.11
    Sulpicius Severus Historia Sacra II.49-51
    Sulpicius Severus Vita Sancti Martini XX

    Later sources

    Historia Nova, Book IV, Zosimus c. 500
    De Excidio et Conquestu Britanniae, Gildas c. 540
    The Pillar of Eliseg, 9th century
    Historia ecclesiastica gentis Anglorum, Bede, c. 731
    Historia Brittonum, Nennius, c.828
    Breuddwyd Macsen, The dream of Macsen Wledig, 11th century
    Historia regum Britanniae, Geoffroy de Monmouth, c. 1136
    The five royal tribes of Wales and The fifteen tribes of Gwynedd, 15th century

    Any other early ones I've missed?
     
  14. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    Hell of a man that guy!
    I think that is most of the first hand accounts of the era.
     
  15. Alisdair

    Alisdair New Member

    Yeah, that man did the rounds...
     
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  16. Magnus Maximus

    Magnus Maximus Dulce et Decorum est....

    I think it is pretty cool that he actually participated in many of the battles he wrote about later on. That is rare; even for a Roman historian.
     
  17. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    By the way, I am very much enjoying your translation of Bruck - a superb effort, and long overdue.
     
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