1901 Indian Head - what grade would you give this?

I need to call upon skill far superior to my own.....

Can you give me your opinions on grade?


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Your coin grades G-4. It's worth around a buck retail.

 

A typical worn one.

 

G4 and I agree with @rooman9

 

VG-08 Obverse, F-12 Reverse, evens out to VG-10

Not worn enough for G-04

http://www.pcgs.com/photograde/#/Indian/Grades

 

Better photos would likely help some, but going on remaining meat alone, there appears to be enough to take it slightly above straight good.

As for "evens out to VG10", I would respectfully disagree with the logic, even aside from the questionable surface conditions.

 

Thanks All....sorry about the pics.
Are these a little better?

 

It's heaps better. I still can't make out any letters on the headband, however. I want at least a piece of one to go VG8; pieces of three to go VG10. I have to keep it at G6, even though, overall, it's better than G6. I know, I know. I'm soooo confused.

 

VG-8.

 

I agree with @eddiespin. I'm revising my grade to G6 with the new, sharper photos. I see some detail in the feathers that I couldn't make out before. But, no letters in LIBERTY means a max grade of G6.

 

It looks better than a 6 but it can't grade higher unless there are letters we can't see in the images.

 

Based on the letters, I can't go above G. But the coin has the look of a VG coin.

 

It looks cleaned or corroded

 

One also ought to look at the "meat" left on the denticles as some indication of where this IHC's grade falls. Just quoting Rick Snow's IHC grading guide here:

VG-8: "Three letters of LIBERTY are visible." (but they need not be legible)
VG-10: "One letter of LIBERTY is not visible."
F-12: "All letters of LIBERTY must be partly visible, though they need not be entirely legible."

Based on that, and what I see left on the ribbon--VG-10 easy, maybe F-12. I won't comment on surfaces because photos are not always accurate. On a mid-grade common IHC like 1901, the grading differences only amount to a buck or two in value...

 

I can't see any letters in the image.

 

The letters in LIBERTY don't need to be legible for VG8-10...you will see the tops of letters in this grade. Well, I can see several tops of LIBERTY on the OP's coin.

 

I'll stay with the ANA Grading Standards. Three letters in LIBERTY will show clearly but two full letters and part of two others are sufficient for VG-8. All I see in the images are parts of a few letters.

 

Well, I've got their book too--but their pictures are rather inadequate to grade by. I'd like to see a certified VG8 that shows two "full letters" (as in legible) from LIBERTY. The bottom headband wears first, and takes letter detail with it. It's one thing to quote something written, but another thing entirely use your observation and figure out how grades actually look. For example, here's a PCGS/CAC grade of VG8 that I think also fits Snow's grading criteria. As you can see, the letters aren't legible; it's their outline/position that's seen--mostly on the tops.

 

I'm still saying VG-8, VG-10 details. May be cleaned though.