1885 Seated Quarter Proof

I think if it had graded as something the dealer wouldn't owe the fees. Since it didn't grade as anything, I think the honorable thing to do is refund the fees as well. After all, this person is selling "Numismatic Investments." What kind of an "Investment" is a problem coin?
OK, so it's just a name.. ie: "Bob's like-new pristine Investment used cars."

 

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Yeah. Gotta be careful with that "investment" word. Then again, who's to say it won't eventually grade if you kept submitting it? I've seen plenty of coins on CT that were eventually holdered as problem free, whereas they once were in problem coin holders... mine included.

 

That's true. Coloration is highly subjective.

 

Well that's different, didn't realize you had the coin in hand before you bought it. Hope you can come to a satisfactory resolution with the dealer. I would mention that you would have been happy with just a straight grade of 64 just to smooth things over a bit.

I would say that if he bars you from his shop for returning something, after he agreed to the terms of the sale, that he wouldn't be a dealer worth going too anyway.

 

Yea I'm not asking for grading fees back. I'll eat that $40 easily

 

Maybe the sniffer at PCGS would have graded it clean.

 

A refund or a buyback? These are two very different animals.

 

Refund

 

That's good.

 

Here's the NGC pics

 

That's a hologram I have't seen before.

I didn't see anywhere in the tread that the seller was selling "Numismatic Investments", the coin was originally graded as PF-65 by "Numismatic Investments of New England". That was a firm formed in 1982 which went out of business in the late 80's or early 90's.

 

Wow, so this wasn't a failed crossover attempt due to AT, but rather had the coin placed into an AT holder and the dealer is still willing to give a refund?

 

I kept the PF65 label that it came with when I bought it so if he wants to crack it back out and resell it as a 65 that's up to him.

 

No one is going to buy the coin as a PF65 with that old label loosely associated with the coin. At this point the coin is raw or is in an AT holder unless submitted again until it grades cleanly.

 

The coin when I bought it was just in a 2x2 flip with the paper cert on the other side. So I don't know how it'd be different.

 

Okay, I had not realized that. I thought it was in a cointain that was sealed inside the flip from the previous grading company. Apparently, this was not so.

 

@Tom B back in hand.

 

Please DO NOT post poor quality images and expect individuals to be able to even suggest a grade for a coin. I did not comment, as there is no intelligent way to even estimate the condition of the coin from those photographs. The flash and lighting obliterates any possibility of seeing the surfaces. Please experiment with photographs of coins before you post ones that are basically useless.

 

I wonder if the artificial toning was dipped out if it would grade straight? It's too mottled and there are no color progressions really, so I can see how it was called a problem coin. Still lovely.