Lincoln die rotation

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  1. Bryant M

    Bryant M Active Member

    Here are 2 photos crappy but you can see the rotation WP_20150315_007.jpg WP_20150315_009.jpg
     
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  3. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

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  4. Seattlite86

    Seattlite86 Outspoken Member

    Thanks for the link; I bookmarked it!
     
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  5. Bryant M

    Bryant M Active Member

    Your telling me haha only reason I saves it was because it was counter clockwise.
     
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  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    You still have me thinking about this..funny
     
  7. Bryant M

    Bryant M Active Member

    Yea I still take a glance at it every time I can lol
     
  8. GLC

    GLC New Member

    Thanks for a great topic that had me wondering for a while. I'm new to collecting and this information is a definite plus. Thanks soooo much. Gary C
     
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  9. desertgem

    desertgem Senior Errer Collecktor Supporter

    Look at the 1972 DDO varieties. For several it is the direction of the rotation that reduces the number of possibilities. Probably the best example I am aware .
     
  10. John T.

    John T. Active Member

    This is way different from all machining standards - CNC. 0 degrees is straight out to the right. Is the mint out of sink with the rest of the world? Oh ya, that's the government!
     
  11. TheFinn

    TheFinn Well-Known Member

    I think you give the degree of rotation, then the direction of rotation. Otherwise, something rotated 5 degrees out of line could be 355 degrees out of alignment, depending on direction.
    And since U.S. coins are aligned by coin rotation, they start out at 180 degrees.
     
  12. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    Yep, agree...15-20 degrees ccw.

    I'm not certain, but I read somewhere a while ago that a 10 degree rotation was within tolerance. I am not sure what the actual parameters governing rotation are, nor am I cognizant of values associated with "out of tolerance" rotations.

    I am off to research...

    Spark
     
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  13. Cheech9712

    Cheech9712 Every thing is a guess

    Dilly Dilly
     
  14. Spark1951

    Spark1951 Accomplishment, not Activity

    From Numismaster.com, under "News and Articles", is an article titled "Rotated Reverse Confuses Collectors". It is submitted by Alan Herbert from July 11, 2011, and was originally published in Coins Magazine.

    In the article, Herbert states the mint tolerance for rotation is 7 degrees.

    So there, presuming the info is correct, we can say that 8 degrees is a minor difference and worth a minor premium. Correspondingly, the maximum rotation is 180 degrees and is considered a "clockwise" rotation. Using this rule, that would mean the maximum "counter-clockwise" rotation could only reach 179 degrees...and, of course the premium escalates with the degree of rotation.

    I don't have any examples of degree rotation to premiums. Collectors would have to do their own due diligence and research to find how much a certain rotation variety sold for, along with the usual grading parameters, including differences of denomination.

    Spark
     
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