Strange 1987D Quarter Find

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by tommyc03, Mar 14, 2015.

  1. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Before you say PMD let me explain a few things. There is no edge damage to indicate this was held with pliers or in a vise. All of the lines in this look like flow lines, they are not sharp or have edges. The T in States appears to be upside down and the other spots I have marked are perfectly smooth craters. There is no damage to the obverse. That said, what else could this possibly be? Could this be a final stage of die deterioration before the die was removed. It is a 1987D. Outside of the minting process I cannot think of anything hot enough to have been able to push the metal around like this (soldering iron?). No burn marks either so not a torch.
     

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  3. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    All I can tell you is it certainly didn't come from the mint like that.
     
  4. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    It probably IS PMD but it's one of the stranger ones I have found and can't figure out. I'm not completely familiar with the entire process of coinage, is there any possibility there was a "hot spot" that might have caused this while it was being made? And don't get me wrong, I'm not one to make a mountain out of a mole hill, it's just curiosity.
     
  5. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It almost looks as though it has been melted by a torch.

    ???

    Chris
     
  6. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    No damage to the Obverse? Lets see a picture of that please. :pics:
     
  7. KurtS

    KurtS Die variety collector

    That's pretty weird looking...it would get my attention too.
    Something I notice when I draw a perfect circle around the coin, the area affected extends beyond that circle, which suggests to me it happened after the coin was ejected from the press.

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  8. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Been in circulation a long time so has a lot of hits to it. img235.jpg
     
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  9. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Like KurtS stated.. Looks like it bulges out a bit. Should be perfectly round. Interesting though.
    TopCoin.PNG
     
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  10. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    What, no Heritage material here? "Dang Me, Dang Me," (Roger Miller):banghead:
     
  11. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    OK I won't say PMD as in Post Mint Damage.. It's Possible Manmade Destruction!
     
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  12. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    Remember that the pre-quarter Blank is put through the upsetting mill. That makes the Blank into the next stage Planchet. One side of your quarter shows the upsetting but the area in question does not. Even if it was a struck through, planchet flaw or lamination I think you would still see the upset edge. Just the way you see it all around on the Obverse side.
     
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  13. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I'll go for it. Thanks so much.
     
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  14. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I think it's a bank conspiracy. Liz is always asking what I'm looking for when I pick up boxes. I tried to explain it but had to bring in some errors to show her. "Ah,ha" she goes. Now she's making these things just to throw me for a loop. She's probably got a machine shop at home....LOL
     
  15. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    She's single I think. Maybe I could ask her out and show her my tool shop?
     
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  16. paddyman98

    paddyman98 I'm a professional expert in specializing! Supporter

    I tried to explain it to my Brazilian bank teller. She thought I was saying Euro when I was telling her error. Lost in translation kind of misunderstanding. We both have bad accents!
     
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  17. rickmp

    rickmp Frequently flatulent.

    Is that what you call it?
     
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  18. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    What happened to the L in LIBERTY?
     
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