Large cent grade

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  1. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    Got one of my first large cents today :) Just wondering what everyone would grade this at? I'm super excited and I think it's a nice looking coin.
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  3. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    Also yes I know not to hold a coin like that. These are the dealers photos.
     
  4. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    Anybody? I was thinking XF but I am not a good judger of these coins.
     
  5. Kirkuleez

    Kirkuleez 80 proof

    Grading large cents can be difficult because the strike quality was all over the place. To determine the amount of wear, you first need to have a decent understanding of how much detail was present when the coin was struck. On the braided hair cents the rim, stars and denticles are the best indicators. This looks like a relatively well struck coin with most detail still intact. I'd call it a VF-35.
     
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  6. messydesk

    messydesk Well-Known Member

    VF30. Decent strike, but missing some detail in the lower hair and the central wreath leaves that I'd want to see on an decently struck XF coin.
     
  7. KSorbo

    KSorbo Well-Known Member

  8. mrweaseluv

    mrweaseluv Supporter! Supporter

    I would say XF though agree appears a weak strike but I would not drop it to vf for that.
     
  9. aubade21

    aubade21 Well-Known Member

    Depends on who you holder it with, but I'd say it's a candidate for an XF40.
     
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  10. jerryc39

    jerryc39 Well-Known Member

    I am going to say vf 30 or 35
     
  11. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    I like it as well as most large cents they are pretty cool. I only have one myself and bought it several years back from a CT member and I still love it. I would grade yours I think she's an XF40 weak strike and that's seen a lot on large cents and wouldn't knock it down to VF 35 in my opinion.
     
  12. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    Thanks for the answers! I've actually learned a lot from them. I also love the color just a little red peaking through.
     
  13. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    Looks like a newcomb N17, which is a common variety. The early die state often have low spots on the hair and bust over the date, as is seen on this example. These make the coin a bit harder to grade, as those hair details are a high spot and the amount of detail left is a useful indicator of wear. That detail was never struck up on your coin, so we have to look elsewhere.

    The coronet is another good point to look for wear. The L in Liberty is one of the first letters to wear, and as the wear is just touching the top of that L, I think the the coin is higher than a vf 20. There does not appear to be much hair separation in the hair above the ear, but there is separation between the hair just below and to the right of the Ear. I would put this coin in the vf 25 or vf 30 range by EAC standards, and it appears to have very nice surfaces, even original toning and no major marks. I find TPGs tend to be around 10 points higher then EAC on these middle of the road grades, so I could see this in a vf35 or xf40 holder, but I would call it a straight 25 with no deductions, average plus for the grade.
     
  14. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    That is a very good post on this subject. I have seen few post in grading large cents on this site and to see an educational one is refreshing.
     
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  15. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    Thanks a lot. I know nothing about grading these but this has helped heaps!
     
  16. beef1020

    beef1020 Junior Member

    This guy has a great EAC grading guide:

    http://early-copper.com/grading.html

    Multiple coins for each grade, showing the difference. These are EAC grades, third party graders are going to be higher, but if you want to see strict wear grading standards, instead of market grading, this is a great resource.
     
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  17. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    Just got the coin today. I'm happy with it. Looks better in hand than these photos :) Might have weak striking in parts but overall it is missing all those small nicks that a lot of these have :)
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