What are these lines in my 1930 Buffalo Nickel

Discussion in 'Coin Chat' started by BaconSlayer, Feb 24, 2015.

  1. BaconSlayer

    BaconSlayer Active Member

    Looks like heavy die file lines, what else could have caused it? Not a great coin, but I am learning and this caught my eye.

    Behind E Pluribus Unum and ERICA

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    Behind FIVE CENT and below Buffalo

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  3. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    It could be die erosion on a heavily worn coin. Could you post photos of the whole coin?

    Chris
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    what Chris said
     
  5. kanga

    kanga 65 Year Collector

    I think it's from die polishing.
     
  6. BaconSlayer

    BaconSlayer Active Member

    It is pretty worn, here is the whole coin.

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  7. Colonialjohn

    Colonialjohn Active Member

    Probably die polishing. Interesting - both raised and recessed lines. Since raised and the recessed lines are from wear (not lamination) it seems a worn out die polished affected coin.

    JPL
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    It's die wear, nothing more.
     
  9. BaconSlayer

    BaconSlayer Active Member

    Great info, thaks all.
     
  10. C-B-D

    C-B-D Well-Known Member

    Which lowers the value and grade of this very flawed coin. Right, GD? :)
     
  11. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Flawed planchet.

    Die wear and the subsequent flow lines tend to be radial from the center of the coin. These lines are all linear like you would see from roller marks.
     
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  12. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Good point Michael, didn't look close enough to see it :oops:
     
  13. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator


    Dear lord, not you too ??

    :D
     
  14. BaconSlayer

    BaconSlayer Active Member

    Ok, that is a new term "roller marks". Is there a glossary somewhere on this forum?
     
  15. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    This is what it appears to be.

    Die Erosion 002.JPG
     
  16. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    I think it's reference to the transport mechanism that moves the sheet of metal during the blank-cutting operation.

    Chris
     
  17. eddiespin

    eddiespin Fast Eddie

    Those lines look like where the die was worked on, they tried to stretch out its life.
     
  18. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    I thought they were caused when rolling the blanks to the correct thickness.
     
  19. cpm9ball

    cpm9ball CANNOT RE-MEMBER

    Yeah, this is more plausible.

    Chris
     
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  20. Conder101

    Conder101 Numismatist

    Rolling the strip to the proper thickness. The steel rollers can also become worn and develop lines or ridges that go around the roller. These ridges can impress marks into the surface of the strip running along the length of the strip.
     
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