1979 p SBA ddo or md

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  1. billy b

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  3. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    die deterioration
     
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  4. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    rread this when you get a chance check out the numismatic resource section for varitiies and errors Determining Die Doubling from Other Forms of Doubling - by JT Stanton

    "Explaining the difference between die doubling (doubled dies, repunched dates, repunched mintmarks among others) and the more confusing forms of doubling can be very challenging and even more difficult for a novice to comprehend. Additionally, there are times when determining the difference can be frustrating for even a very experienced collector."

    Determining Die Doubling from Other Forms of Doubling
     
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  5. billy b

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    I guess i need a better scope.There's doubling all the place on this coin when u look with a loop.BUT THANKS FOR YOUR INPUT PAL!&THE LINK
     
  6. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

  7. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    what you know about that token you toeten
     
  8. kaosleeroy108

    kaosleeroy108 The Mahayana Tea Shop & hobby center

    what you know about that token you toeten
     
  9. phankins11

    phankins11 Well-Known Member

    I've noticed a lot of time when looking at things with my loupe that with the way you have to hold the coin and the loupe to get the right amount of light to see what you're looking at, it almost makes things look doubled. It seems to me the shinier the surface is around the devices the more this happens to me...then I'll take a pic and realize there's nothing there but bright light reflecting in the nooks and crannies of the raised devices...not sure if that's what your seeing, but I notice it a lot when I'm looking at coins with my loupe.
     
  10. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Die deterioration and if you look closer at the 1 you can see the flat shelf like machine doubling. Not DD but MD.
     
  11. billy b

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    Sorry all went to the beach; and didnt see your posts.kaosleeroyits its a penny not a token!& if i told you it would not be SECRET SOciety!!!!Now would it ? TOMMYC u got me started on these with that post the other day about them.I went to the bank but they only had 1 roll. Nice roll it had 3 S& 2 near dates or wide rims.What ever u call them. The s ones look like they were struck about 5 times. I will post them later when i have the time. So u can tell me what u think!But look close at the 9s on that coin
     
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  12. tommyc03

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    I see what you are looking at but this is usually caused when parts of the press get loose and need adjustment. I call it chatter, some call it differently. This is why it sometimes looks doubled or tripled. Real doubling is rounded and not flat and shelf like. They look interesting but are not called doubled dies. This is called machine doubling. The real doubling comes from the die itself, not the loose parts that need tightening. Most of the sites we use for comparison are really good teaching tools. Like Wexler's at www.doubleddie.com and the Coneca site also. I have spent hours there. So much to learn, so little time, but well worth the effort.
     
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