2011 wire dime anybody else find one?

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  1. billy b

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  3. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Die Crack or Post Mint damage.
    PMD is what I see but.
    :)Not an Expert someone may see something different
     
  4. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Look how it also extends into the rim, but not the low spot just before the rim. This is very characteristic of PMD scratch, NOT a die crack. A die crack would carry into the low spots.
     
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  5. d.t.menace

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    What medoraman said. The scratch skips where the bust meets the field.
     
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  6. billy b

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    I dont know much about this. But i do see a little cud where scratch starts.PLUS THIS COIN CAME FROM A NEW MINT BOX!I will try to find some more info about it. thanks for the reply
     
  7. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Always remember the mint is a giant factory. As such, tons of stuff can happen at the mint after a coin is struck. When we say post mint damage, that is actually wrong. What we mean is post strike damage. If a coin is damaged at the mint after its struck, that does not make it a mint(ing) error, it makes it a post striking damage.

    I have never liked the phrase post mint damage, preferring post strike damage, or post minting damage, because this describes what we really mean.

    Btw, the same thing I describe on the low points around the rim is also true in front of his chin. There is a spot where no mark occurs, which makes sense if it is a post minting scratch, but not if it was a die crack.
     
  8. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Thats not necessarily a scratch just because it has breaks in it. If it were something brittle and has no tensile strength that was struck through, it would break at places of extreme deflection leaving gaps.

    Edit to add this. How did a scratch, through the inner ear, not leave reliefed metal
     
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  9. harris498

    harris498 Accumulator

    Maybe true, but I think that's a scratch.
     
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  11. bdunnse

    bdunnse Who dat?

    Dagnabbit...why do I keep clicking on these threads?! :banghead:
     
  12. cpm9ball

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    It's a scratch.

    Chris
     
  13. MKent

    MKent Well-Known Member

    What do you mean a mint box? A box of rolls from the armored carrier?
     
  14. billy b

    billy b Active Member

    A box delivered by Brinks to my bank from the Philadelphia mint in 2011
     
  15. billy b

    billy b Active Member

    I see what yall are takling about on this coin Image191.jpg
     
  16. cpm9ball

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    That isn't a cud. It's where the thingamajig that scratched the coin made it's first contact.

    Chris
     
  17. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    I tend to agree with you on this as I have many that are not perfect and tend to have very small skips in them in the same exact way you state could have happened. I claim no fame to being always right tho. It also appears in the photo that the metal is raised and not incuse or gouged. And as billy just showed, his jumped/skipped at the chin and between the chips at the neck. Only slightly, but there is a gap.
     
  18. medoraman

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    Photographs are weird. What to me looks like an incuse to you may look raised. I judged whether it was a cut or not based upon his ear. That does not looked raised to me at all. However, if the OP can get a close up shot at an angle proving it its raised metal or sunken metal, that might help.
     
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  19. tommyc03

    tommyc03 Senior Member

    Photos certainly can be deceiving. Just like grading can be very subjective. I can always be humbled and not mind it a bit. Was not trying to up the ante on you at all.
     
  20. medoraman

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    Of course not and I did not view it that way sir. Like I said, I was making an assumption from how I viewed the photo, but I may or may not have been right.
     
  21. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Photos are definitely deceptive to the eye at times, as the E in LIBERTY looks to be doubled in the OP's original.
     
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