can one of these be genuine?

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by sefoan, Feb 9, 2015.

  1. sefoan

    sefoan New Member

    Hello to everyone! for reviewing there are six Asian (China, possibly Japan) coins or their replicas. I got them in 5 years from different sources. 1st one came recently, 2nd;3rd;4th came together earlier, and 5th and 6th five years ago. I don't know what to think about them so any assistance is welcome.
     

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  3. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    All look like genuine Chinese Cash to me except #1. That looks like a charm, but no way of knowing when made. The rest are Ching dynasty cash.
     
  4. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    All except for coin 1 are real and it looks like a charm, they are from 1662-1796 depending on the coin.

    Coin 5 and 6 are from 1662-1722
    Coin 2 is from circa 1796
    Coin 3 is from 1736-1795
    Coin 4 is from 1862-1874
    Coin 2 and 3 belong to the same ruler, Ch'ien-lung, but coin two was struck after the ruler's abdication in 1795 until 1799, whereas coin 3 was struck during his actual reign.

    Coin 5 and 6 were struck in the reign of Sheng Tsu between 1662 and 1722

    Coin 4 was struck in the reign of T'ung Chih

    None of these coin are very expensive, maybe $1, maybe $2 each (I pay a quarter each at my coin shop, even 25 cents for the medieval coinage). But they are still very cool in a historical aspect. Considering that they made so many over a course of an entire reign, without any specific dates on the coin, these coins are not very rare. No one would counterfeit them due to how common they are.

    Here is helpful a website on these coins
    http://www.calgarycoin.com/reference/china/china8.htm#tung
     
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  5. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    This thread I think needs to be moved to world coins.
     
  6. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Not sure how it happened. Double post.
     
  7. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Here are the mints:

    Coin 2 was struck at the Board of Works mint in Bejing

    Coin 3 was struck at the Board of Revenue mint in Bejing

    I'm not sure about coin 4's mint but I will check some more

    Coin 5 was struck at the Board of Revenue mint

    Coin 6 was struck at the Board of Revenue mint also.
     
  8. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    When my computer lags I might get impationt and click the post but more than once, when my computer stops lagging I see that every time I clicked "post reply" I posted it.
     
  9. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    That's probably what it was but I don't recall clicking it twice.
     
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  10. sefoan

    sefoan New Member

    That's amazing! Thank you. That's not my field of interest but I'm glad to have some genuine ones.
     
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  11. sefoan

    sefoan New Member

    Thank you coinman1234 for your support and useful link. That's incredible how long they managed to cast their coins in the same style. They look to be interesting when you start listening what do these coins talk.
     
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  12. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    Except for the Manchu on the reverae, they are not different than cash coins the Chinese made for 1700 year previous. Chinese Cash is by far the longest continuous coin series in world history. You can buy a ban liang not too much different than your coins struck before the birth of Christ.

    The best book for a beginner in these is Chinese Cash Coinage by Hartill. Frank Robinson carries it, as well as coins.
     
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  13. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Not just beginners. Its pretty much the best reference, period, barring a few references in Chinese.
     
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  14. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I thought you were more of a Thierry man Bill. :)
     
  15. Ardatirion

    Ardatirion Où est mon poisson

    Thierry's two (now three!) major publications are the finest work that has ever been done in this area, hands down, but they're only the coins in the Biblitheque nationale. Hartill is a general work that covers everything, and his section on the Qing dynasty incorporates the research he did in a standalone volume on the dynasty.
     
  16. Ken Walker

    Ken Walker Member

    Handy link, well done
     
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  17. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Thanks, I like old cash coins. So much history behind each one. I agree, was amazed when I first found out that they made the same style of coin for thousands of years. I have a medieval cash coins, I will post some photos soon.
     
  18. coinman1234

    coinman1234 Not a Well-Known Member

    Here are some of my cash coins, dating from around 900 ad to 1900 ad. my coin shop has a bin of world coins for 25 cents each and he will have these mixed in.
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    Here are a few medieval cash coins. Not much difference between how newer ones look except for a blank reverse
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