Celtic imitation of Macedonian type?

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  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I think the bust is clearly Celtic - a type imitating Phillip II or Alexander? What do y'all think? AE16 but I don't know the weight. I see similar bust types among the Pannonian issues, and the Pannonians imitated the stater types of Macedon so...

    This is the seller's pic and there isn't much I can do with it. I'll post my own when it's in hand. If anyone could point me to the right tribe I'd appreciate it!

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  3. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Very nice coin. I think it is a Philip II imitation as well. I don't know much about Celtic coins at all, hardly.
     
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  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    It seems the Celts preferred to mint silver coins - there is no end of imitative staters, but the bronze seems very scarce, if not rare.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    The bust looks Iberian Celt.
     
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  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Dang it, you're right! Well now I've got to go look through a thousand Iberian coins.
     
  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    i would just guess it was a greek coin of philip ii. what's the give away that it's something else? the horse missing the rider?
     
  8. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Ummm, hey JA ... errrr yah, Bing always likes it when he's correct, so I think that you should definitely make a bigger deal out of it ... I'm just sayin'

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    :woot:

    ... just jokes, B-Bro
     
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  9. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It's just that it's not often.
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  10. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    your'e awesome, my coin-friend ......... 100% golden (I hope you're doin' okay)

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  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Cool coin as a whole.
     
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  12. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    The head on the OP coin is laterally elongated with a nose that forms a basically straight line with the forehead. And there's no neck to speak of. The originals have very different busts - "High Greek" and more realistic in style. Here's a typical example of the Macedonian version...

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    And I suspect the Celtic coin is smaller and lighter, but I'll have to wait and see on that. I do agree with Bing that it's probably Spanish. Still looking through all the pages on Wildwinds...
     
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  13. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    a) it's Friday night, so yah, I have no idea what I'm talkin' about ...


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    b) I have this unknown Celtic coin (oh, but not that Philip above example) .... anyway, I'll try to remember to find it "tomorrow"

    ... ummm, you know that I like you guys, right?
     
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  14. ancientnut

    ancientnut Well-Known Member

    With the rough surfaces obscuring most of the details, I agree with chrsmat that it might be a Phillip II bronze. I've seen these with the rider engraved so lightly into the die that on a lower grade or corroded specimen, he's hard to see.
     
  15. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

  16. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Maybe, yes, but the rider isn't what counts in my opinion. The bust just doesn't seem Macedonian at all to me.
     
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    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

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  18. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

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    ... yah, I'll find that coin, tomorrow
     
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  19. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    my-hot-wife-jpg

    :eek:

    Are you looking for a trip back to the doghouse?
     
  20. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Pretty clothes on her back, water in her dish => what else do women want?!!

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  21. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I'm not biting, lol.
     
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