How does this 1884-S Morgan Look?

It's off to see the fine people at PCGS. I just want to see if anyone thinks that this could come back MS/AU?

 

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Is this the exceedingly rare "date of 1895" VAM?

 

Well, it won't come back as an 84-S. That much I can guarantee. My gut's telling me AU details, cleaned.

 

It does look cleaned to me. Better pictures would help!

 

1884-s is a KEY conditional rarity in high AU and above .... I wish I were seeing one here.

That being said, an 1895-s ain't bad either. Grade? no clue, need better pics.

 

Thanks for the replies, the 1884-S should be up there now Thanks again

 

AU-58. Cleaned????????

 

I think PCGS will send it back in a "Genuine" slab. If I were you, I'd save my money.

Chris

 

Looks polished too me.

 

I would wager that it will come back ms-60 to ms-61 but as others have noted it seems to have been cleaned id say possibly dipped from the slightly dull luster it has great details though. Hope it comes back in your favor!

 

Details... Improperly cleaned

 

Is it the way the coin is worn that makes you suggest that? What do you see?

 

My guess is as "cleaned" or "altered surfaces".

 

No differentiation between the devices and the fields. It might just be the angle and lighting, but typically those surfaces look different. From the picture you posted, both the fields and device skin looks to have been disturbed in the same manner. In my experience, this is due to a coin being polished. I'm not sure how to put my thoughts into words.

 

It is cleaned, and has been altered. Definitely not an 1884s. DO NOT buy difficult date (conditional rarity) coins that are not slabbed unless you know the series like the back of your hand. I have said that many times. Morgans are often cleaned, and key dates are doctored.