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Since, "what is best for one person is not necessarily what is best for another" and since Mr. Rick Tomaska was bright enough to see the progress back in 2002, maybe the old phrase "Buy the book, then the coin!" needs a facelift, an update if you will, into the 21st century?

The desired result is not the same. I was able to put my Franklin Half funds entirely into coins, I collect coins, the educational tools were already there, fruits of a collective labor and passion, available worldwide. Now, I wish to dive in further and another set of resources appears for free. Should I sit back and yell at the top of my lungs, "BUY YOUR BLACK AND WHITE TV'S HERE!"? As far as I'm concerned, you can take the words, "buy and "then" out of the sentence, then place the word "coin" in front of "book".

I have no problem repeating my preference and advice, as many times as you have the phrase "Buy the book, then the coin." plastered all over CT. Don't you think two different approaches to what works for collectors deserve equal forum exposure? I do.

That "Foreword" in the book really appealed to me. Even the book is telling me about an abundance of resources, visuals and informative communication that dwarf any approach from 10 years earlier. Now, of course, we're 13 years past the publishing date. I'll let you draw your own conclusions from that.

 

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Perhaps the saying should be updated to "read the book before buying the coin", and for those references not available free online, perhaps following in dear Timmy's footsteps and stealing them on the pirate bay could also be part of bringing it into the 21st century. While you may have been able to use a book available online for free to complete your Franklin set, this does not mean the same can be done with every series. Perhaps you would like to try your hand at LS50Cs by die marriage; the WB book, which is indeed a fine general reference, is also available on the dlrc blog site, so there would be no need to waste money foolishly on a book, right? That would be so 20th century, or would be until you realize that for such an area of collecting, Mr. Bugert's print-only series is ideal and worth every cent (for a single volume or all). Sure.. you might be able to gather bits and pieces of necessary/useful information here and there online, but to some people time is money and being penny wise and pound foolish is, well, foolish. The point is that for every instance in which someone arguably has not needed to purchase a book, physical or digital, there will be another in which buying a book was, or at least could have been the wise choice. The people on this forum, myself included, who have written of certain books paying for themselves many times over are not making it up; it happens, has long happened, and can easily still happen today.








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As for "plastering" your advice all over CT, go for it. I personally have no real problem with, and honestly think that in many cases it could be the better of the two (at least to a point), but do understand that it, as with having to buy a book, if made as a one-size-fits-all blanket statement, verywell could harm one of those you're actually trying to help. If you have ever had the, ahem, "pleasure" of dealing with someone who only thought they knew what they were doing, or were given less than ideal advice that resulted in serious and regrettable mistakes, this should be obvious.

Oh, and as for Mr. Tomaska's brilliance displayed years ago in regards to the value of the internet, please also remember that regardless of this gentleman's fine contributions to this hobby, he also uses a medium of the past (so 20th century - television) to hawk often overpriced wares, perhaps to those who would be better served following the very advice given in his book.



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If you read my original posts under this topic, my approach is clear. It works, others use the same approach, we buy the coin(s) first, then dive into its history and specifics. For some reason, my advice causes quite the uproar and is encountering opposition, sometimes with questionable grammar, just to tell us we should buy unspecified books as beginners. I just want to say my piece and defend it, if necessary.

I don't follow Tim's posts. Are you promoting some sort of theft or copyright infringement? Well, I guess you can take the topic in your choice of direction, why not?

If you read my post, it does not mention completing a Franklin set. I have purchased some Franklin halves, first, and then located a free resource about Franklin halves. Coins first, dive in second, internet provided resources all along the way. I am still discussing beginners. This would be a description of my beginnings with Franklin halves. I'm not looking to tell anyone what they should collect. Instead, I'm providing an example of my approach and resources, which directly contradict the oversimplified and redundant CT catchphrase, "Buy the book, then the coin.", as it applies to newbies.

Didn't I start off the topic with the exact same approach? I've also pointed out books that are weak, trivial and I provided examples of books that were not useful at all, again, undermining the same CT catchphrase.

 

Thank you!

I am well aware of the fact, that both sides and both approaches to collecting are being well represented within this specific thread. I am only voicing my opinion on my approach here, in this specific thread, with the understanding that neither side of this discussion is underrepresented. This site already offers more than its fair share of vague advice. I do not have my own blanket catchphrase and I do not plaster it vaguely across multiple topics, which happens to be the case with the, "Buy the book, then the coin." catchphrase. In my opinion, it is this "one-size-fits-all blanket statement", frequently repeated without any specifics and blindly supported by experience that may, or may not, be afraid of their internet connection, that very well could be doing more harm, than good. What is there to gain, by over complicating and adding unnecessary expense to the beginner baby steps which lead into our hobby?

He obviously uses the medium of the written word, and I'm reading it, so, maybe we shouldn't get our back up quite so much, when it comes to what I am saying. It is obvious from my early posts and throughout this thread, that there are books I embrace, examples provided.

 

Not to speak for kubu but I think your statement reflects the collection of coins at a higher level then the beginner would start at. Which is what he seems to be saying. I suspect he is not against advanced collection styles just not recommending them as a starting point.

 

Just one word for your post---Awesome

 

This is a simple Gold IRA Rollover guide that can apply if you are looking to invest in coins.

Step One: Your Investments
As you might expect, your rollover has to start with your current IRA or 401(k).
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Eric, this is copyrighted material from another source, and not allowed on the forum unless it is attributed to the original source by URL or perhaps better if just the URL given.

 

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I think one of my book review posts was removed in it's entirety from the first page. It was made up of two replies. No effort was made to leave the book review in the topic. The second reply was the flasher in a trench coat exposing his slabs. Too risque for CT. There is only a trace of it left...

 

Guess you knew what you were doing when you made that post, and included the man with the open coat.

Christian

 

Yes I did, I foolishly assumed, that if it didn't bother anyone the first time, it should be within the rules for a second time. Boy, was I wrong. I was also mistaken with the word "butt", but, that's another quality CT tale.

The consistency with which the CT rules are enforced, varies, mostly based on which moderator read what, understood what and which one forgot to take his meds.

Here is the same type of earlier post, please inform the quality powers of enforcement, as they selectively missed the first appearance of my flasher...

Prices on slabs at coin shows

 

You may not know this, or choose to not take this into account, but moderators are not machines, and not a uniform "block" either. Sure, we aim at being consistent, but one mod may sometimes do something that another mod would not do. Also, when some member reports a post, we do not necessarily search the entire site for possibly similar posts.

Christian

 

Funny, I can tell you from experience, that some moderators expect members to adhere to rules as if they were machines. Spare me your double standard chit chat, you're not in a position to be unbiased. Anyhow, just trying to help the very skilled and important authority figure who deleted my post here, by showing them where the other one is.

Was there a lack of authority figures in either of the two threads, when I added my cartoon flasher? Try selling what you're selling in your end of the woods, maybe you'll find a buyer.

Bottom line, there was nothing bad enough to delete. If a case was to be made for deleting the cartoon flasher, the rest of the post should have remained. Again, we're probably dealing with someone who can't quite grasp the concept of a partial deletion or edit. Either way, GREAT JOB!

 

Lots of young kids on this site. I can see where a mom or dad would not wish to allow a child to be on a site that allows images such as the flasher. I'm sure several members reported it. I was not one of them but I should have. Parents should not have to worry about letting the kids roam this site. Just because the image was allowed to stand in one thread is not a good reason to post it again. We all need to help keep this site as clean as possible.

 

Wow, two machine like, generic warnings for typing the truth. Just testing to see if I still have access. The rest of my thoughts went to @Peter T Davis in private, which is where @chrisild should have started his conversation with me. At least that's what I would have done in his position, regarding a problem cartoon with a "man and an open coat".

 

I have learned that the best way to buy ANY THING is to make sure that if I am not happy with my purchase I can return it ! So that means only buy from reputable shops !

 

Thanks for telling me what I should do and not do, with regard to posts that I did not even touch. And I appreciate your decision to take your complaints to Peter. I sure don't envy him ...

Christian

 

Hey, as long as you're in a position of pretend authority, you can always count on me to steer you in the right direction. You represent a competent bunch. The trench coat was funny, got its share of likes, you asked about it through the forum, I explained, you lectured, I got two warnings. You're a class act all around, thanks.