Featured Modern counterfeit world coins... train your eyes, get your game up

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  1. gxseries

    gxseries Coin Collector

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  3. Numismat

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  4. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    They just sold several hundred fakes through their various accounts, so now they are running away to avoid all the claims once people realize the coins are fake. This is the regular pattern for them, I expect them to be listing more in about 2 months.
     
  5. Trants4md

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    There is a difficulty in evaluating some of the 19th century Asian coins. Some 19th Century Coins were in fact originally 'cast' in silver. So some minor imperfections can be consistent with a genuine coin. Though the flaws will not repeat coin to coin. It is only when you are able to find repeating flaws you get a clear picture it could well be a fake and as you know this is not always easy to get multiple examples at one time. Counterfeiter's do not typically line them up for sale, at least not within one sales forum. Your members here do a nice job reviewing past sales for some signs of problems, Kudo's to you all!

    But very small casting bubbles that were not in a primary focal area apparently were tolerated by some of the early minters, not all imperfect coins were re-melted and cast. 'I do mean small' for those I have seen in my and other coin examples.

    I have had 'self identified' experts tell me one coin of mine especially was a fake because of one such casting bubble seen with a 10x. His take is "it was a cast coin, therefor it was a fake!" Mr. Expert (and yes a friend) in that year they were cast coins !!. LOL

    This is not a coin I purchased, it has been in the family for well over 65 years, was hand carried back from Japan and pre-dates most collectors interest in 19th Century Nippon coins and I suspect predates anyone's need to counterfeit this one.

    I am not an expert I only have about 55+ years of serious hoarding, I cannot say I collect, those days past in the 1960's when I filled both my Lincoln Wheat Cents Books. Hee Hee!

    I have many thousands of world coins, and currency and I have sold exactly 2 coins in my entire life. So hoarder is the only noun that I fear fits.

    Also, I note many of these forum fake links are no longer working so either you are more effective than you think or someone has found a way to cover their tracks when the auction closes.


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  7. BoneDust

    BoneDust Active Member

    If you look at someone's feedback and 22 buyers say "Hey thanks for the nice MS-65 1955 doubled die wheat cent! Great coin! Fast shipping!" then something is wrong. :D
     
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  8. miedbe7

    miedbe7 Wayward Collector

    Gotta love this one eh? some people....

    Keep up the good work guys, very educational. Although not a world collector, this really opens up your eyes to their capabilities.
     
  9. JPeace$

    JPeace$ Coinaholic

    That is a beautiful.........fake......lol.
     
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  10. Hommer

    Hommer Curator of Semi Precious Coinage

    Now see, desperate or not for that date,, there is no way that coin appeals to me. I've seen more appealing coins ran over in the driveway.
     
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  11. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank


    And it is even struck over something.
     
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  12. xCoin-Hoarder'92x

    xCoin-Hoarder'92x Storm Tracker

    A very questionable Japan 1 Yen up for sale.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/271741160437

    This almost looks as bad as the 1879 Morgan someone posted a little bit ago. This doesn't even look like a silver coin.

    I've seen so many odd looking One Yen coins, not sure who to trust. Some of them are harder to spot as well, this was just a horrible example of a counterfeit.
     
  13. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Very sloppy dies and methods, clashed multiple times.
     
  14. Numismat

    Numismat World coin enthusiast

    Actually, I believe that is a genuine coin that has been dipped to hell. That halo around the design and lettering is likely due to heavy toning that was removed by overexposure to chemicals.
     
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  18. rooman9

    rooman9 Lovin Shiny Things

    I feel like these dealers flip through accounts like crazy. Half of these that I checked don't even have coins anymore. Sell it, than run.
     
  19. BoneDust

    BoneDust Active Member

    I read about the seller if possible and never buy overseas but then again I only collect U.S. coins. I will buy from the U.K. though. I highly doubt anyone in China would have a very rare U.S. coin and if they did they would hopefully describe how and where they got it from in great detail. Otherwise use your judgement and pass.
     
  20. Numismat

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