My First Probus of 2015

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by maridvnvm, Jan 3, 2015.

  1. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    I don't tend to add as many Probus coins to my collection as I would like. This one is a very common type but I bought it as an upgrade to my existing example.

    Probus Antoninianus
    Obv:– IMP C PROBVS • P • F • AVG, Radiate cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy.
    Minted in Lugdunum (III in exe) Emission 4, Officina 3. November – Mid to End 277 A.D.
    Reference:– Cohen 334. Bastien 194. RIC 38 Bust type F
    Plenty of detail, with all legends and devices clear and nearly fully silvered.

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    RIC and Bastien split this coin type into two groups. In RIC there are two coins that are would appear to be identical from their entries, RIC 38 and RIC 84. These are split as an early issue and a later issue. In Bastien the coins Bastien 194 and Bastien 287 are placed in Emissions 4 and 6 respectively.

    This coin can be used to illustrate the difference between the two types when illustrated with the following coin.

    Probus Antoninianus
    Obv:– IMP C PROBVS • P • F • AVG, Radiate, cuirassed bust right
    Rev:– MARS VICTOR, Mars walking right, holding spear and trophy
    Minted in Lugdunum (III in exe) Emission 6, Officina 3. 278 - 279 A.D.
    Reference:– Cohen 334. Bastien 287. RIC 84 Bust Type F

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    There are no clues from the legends nor from the reverse type. The differences are all due to the detailing of the bust. The earlier coin the bust is broader with a thicker neck and there is very little of the chest of the cuirass visible. The later coin has a smaller portrait, longer thin neck and much more chest of the cuirass visible.

    That is a lot of blather but is my justification for illustrating my first Probus of the year.

    Martin
     
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  3. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Nice addition => great start to the year, Martin ...

    Hey, perhaps 2015 will be the year that you snag the L. Papius "Snake-and-Dog" combo?

    ;)

    Cheers
     
  4. Gil-galad

    Gil-galad I AM SPARTACUS

    Very nice Probus for the start of the year.
     
  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I take it both coins are yours? I like both, but the portrait on the second coin, Bastien 287, is fantastic.
     
  6. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Yes Bing both are mine and I need to update the photos on my Probus collection and will get round to it in time.
     
  7. maridvnvm

    maridvnvm Well-Known Member

    Steve,
    I turned down two chances in 2014 as the coins were not up to the standard set by your example. I can but hope that 2015 will offer more opportunities but I am willing to be patient.
    Cheers,
    Martin
     
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  8. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    nice additions, quit a long neck they have.
    :D
     
  9. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    looks like your Probus coin has lots of silvering and awesome details!!! very nice Martin..
     
  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Both beautiful coins!
     
  11. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Cool looking Probus and good start for the year.
     
  12. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    A nice start for the year.
     
  13. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Probus has some great coins. I wish they were silver. A nice silver washed example is just as excellent IMO.
     
  14. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    my 1e impuls 2015. :D, i saw it and wow.


    Reference.
    RIC 207.

    Probus Æ Antoninianus. Rome, 278 AD

    Obv: IMP PROBVS AVG.
    Radiate and mantled bust left, holding eagle-tipped scepter.

    Rev: SOLI INVICTO / R(pellet in crescent)E.
    Sol driving quadriga left, raising hand and holding reins, globe and whip.


    Weight: 4.24 g.
    Diameter: 25 mm.
    Probus.jpg
     
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  15. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    i guess these coins have lower silver % then a Hadrian Denarius.
    or were they silvered? or none


    cheers,

    Eric
     
    Last edited: Jan 5, 2015
  16. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    They were just under 5% silver and then silver washed. Most have lost all of their silver by the time they wear to VF and many seemingly uncirculated ones are patchy at best. I do not have the OP type with silver but below is a different Rome mint coin with quite a bit remaining.
    rx2560bb2278.jpg
     
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  17. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    When new, this one looked the same color as the above but now it looks completely silver free since the 5% is masked by the 95% base metals.
    rx2565bb3110.jpg
     
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  18. Okidoki

    Okidoki Well-Known Member

    Thx,
    Very helpfull
    Kind regards
    Eric
     
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