I almost never buy gold... but I did.

The stars don't look right to me.

 

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The stars don't look right to me.

 

Looks fine to me and I've had a set under construction since the eighties. I plan to complete one day if I live long enough to save up for the type 1 and 2 1907, the 20-S and the 33. One of my all time favorite US coin series. Just typical weak strike. I'd call it AU-53.

 

I've circled my concerns. Not an expert but I've read books on the matter. And I myself have posted high quality images of a coin on this forum, of a known fake to see if anybody would catch it. Nobody did. So I think it's good to study these hard when somebody posts!

My issues are circled.



The ERTY bothers me. The T looks to be very long and the Y seems slanted more than the one somebody else posted.

Do the stars normally meander off the edge this bad on the left? And what is this on the right between these two stars?

 

Compare the 2nd star from the left in both pics. In the second one, the star almost runs next to the feather. The first one, it runs INTO the feather.

 

looks good! CBD

 

Looks a little iffy to me as well. I'm not an expert on that series though. With that said, I once bought a $2.5 Coronet Head raw from an antique store that was literally perfect AU, no problems, no red flags. I sent it in to NGC and it came back "Not Genuine". Luckily the guy who had the booth I bought it from was very generous and understanding and let me return it a month and half after I bought it.

Before it was legal to own bullion it was common for foreign counterfeiters to make really high quality counterfeits as a way for people to own bullion that looked like it wasn't. My suggestion would be to buy certified with gold coins, or from a LCS that guarantees its coins.

 

You either want to get to the bottom of this and know for sure or you want to be re-assured by people who glance at it and assume it's real.

We know that there are good enough fakes now, made of the proper metal content and weight that simply glancing at photos online and making an opinion is not a 100% fool proof way of proving anything.

We know they make more and more of these every year that goes by to the point that most high end stuff not in a slab is automatically suspect now. It's the world we live in.
It doesn't really matter how much experience people have. There are eternal optimists, pessimists and realists. You're going to receive a spectrum of responses based in knowledge and experience but then guided by these deeply rooted philosophies.
I'm not trying to ruin your day and have no reason to pick on you. I hope it is real, but I've mentioned the problems I have with it. The true test would be to ask what everyone in this thread would give you for it, after several issues have been mentioned.
If everyone who says it's ok would actually buy it from you, then at least we have some honesty. One guy says he wouldn't touch it with a 10 ft pole. I would not buy it. You may take offense but at least it's being honest. All this comes with buying something raw. You posted the thread and asked. Hopefully you take away from this more than just what you want to hear. I wish you luck with it and hope I'm wrong.

 

Plus I see you have it for sale on ebay. If you are not sure it is real, I would not sale it.

 

I am satisfied that it's real. I have it in hand.

 

Awwwwwkward.

 

Not at all, actually .

 

Look, I am not trying to start a problem here, because last time I commented on a thread regarding fake gold coins it was a fiasco.

But that coin is faker than fake. Look at the stars. Look at the ITE of UNITED on the reverse. The "I" looks like a dog bone! Those 3 letters are so wavy looking it is silly. If you are selling this as genuine, well then sir, I now have to add you to the "Naughty List". Maybe your intent is good, but, as a consumer, I have a right to choose who I buy from, and I cannot buy from a dealer who thinks this is real. It is a question of competency. Sorry man. Not meant as an insult.

 

I think this thread proves that people need more education on fakes, rather than automatic suspicion just because something isn't slabbed. This will only leave people open to get fooled by fakes in slabs (both genuine and fake slabs). I am of the opinion that the coin in the OP is genuine and that many of the things people mentioned as being off actually match other coins, like the "dog bone" I in United mentioned above.

 

We have provided pictures that show this coin does not match a known genuine one. If you believe it matches known real ones, show the proof like we did. Find one it matches.

 

I may have to send this one in to settle this.

 

Gold has always been kind of iffy for me. Even small gold dollars can go for a few hundred dollars, and if you buy a fake, you lose some major $$$.

 

I would be very very interested to see what they say

 

Can you post more pics of the edges? I'd like to see all of the edges. The bottom of the T in Trust looks like it has a glob of extra metal on it. To me this has red flags everywhere.