Another "problem free" Liberty Cap...

By a long stretch of market grading I can understand why this would grade AG. But is this amount of corrosion really "SOLID" for the grade? Am I missing something here? Have CAC and PCGS both decided that this coin had a porous planchet to begin with or have we really reached the point where coins like this are the new standard?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/301431556646?_trksid=p2055119.m1438.l2649&ssPageName=STRK:MEBIDX:IT

 

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I have several early large cents details graded for enviro damage that are far cleaner then that

 

Even looking past the obvious porosity, the coin looks like it has FR-02 detail, to me.

 

How about this one? *wink wink*
http://www.ebay.com/itm/1795-1C-Lib...D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 

That coin has some serious meat on it....I don't like the verdigris above her head though. No way it's problem free.

 

The biggest problem is that it's fake The Chinese are getting quite good at it

 

Thought it looked a bit off especially the reverse they are getting good tho.

 

Yikes. I certainly didn't catch that. Looking at it again though, it does look like some better electrotypes I've seen.

 

If it is a fake then yes they are getting good.

 

If you look at their other completed items there are a handful more US silver and copper coins and many foreign ones that are high quality fakes of more expensive coins, mixed in with some cheap lower grade genuine coins.

 

So are you saying that this coin is a fake because other coins they have sold are fakes, or is there something on this cent that identifies it a being a fake?

 

It has the typical look of the chemically induced patina that is seen on their copper and bronze coins. I don't go for that "guilty by association" stuff, I look at each coin individually because they mix it up.

 

I do think the positioning of the reverse details looks a bit off as well as the obverse does not appear to have any real genuine wear. Looks like a weak struck coin with fake patina. I'll concur it looks real fishy on close inspection

 

Fake translated grammar is always a sign as well:
"If you have some questions, please write to me, I will reply in the first time, thanks!"
I do not know of any Minnesotans that write/talk this way.

 

Shhhh, don't give them better ideas

 

I wouldn't equate grammar that much the way I type everyone think everything I got is fake. The real world every 3rd word outta my mouth get me kicked off ct