Some New Nabataeans

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by John Anthony, Dec 2, 2014.

  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Hey boys and girls, I just realized I haven't bored you with Nabataeans for a while! I've been remiss in my duties. Anyway, here's a very nice, very small bronze of Aretas IV (9 BC - 40 AD). It's curious that the eagle is the only animal depicted on Nabataean coins, so it must have held some special significance. What that was is largely a matter of conjecture.

    Nabatean Kingdom, Aretas IV (9 BC - 40 AD)
    AE11, 1.29g; Petra: c.5/6 AD
    Obv.: Eagle standing left in dotted border; heth in right field.
    Rev.: Ligature of heth and resh in center of wreath.
    Reference: Meshorer Nabataea 88; ex-Zach Beasly.

    aretas eagle minute.jpg

    These minute coins come with a variety of field marks. This one has a very bold heth on the obverse, and a ligature of heth and resh on the reverse. The left stroke of heth (in red) is used as the downstroke of resh (in blue)...

    aretas eagle minute 2.jpg

    This ligature denotes the king's name, as Aretas is spelled heth-resh-taw-taw in Nabataean, or Haratat.

    I have a few more tiny bronzes to post later, after I take some pics. :)
     
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  3. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    I love getting bored by these Nabataeans. More please!
     
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  4. Aidan_()

    Aidan_() Numismatic Contributor

    Yup, I'm bored... nice piece JA. ;)
     
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  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Not bored. Interesting coins. Just not interested in starting another sub-collection.
     
  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Another interesting ligature combines the letters shin and lamedh, followed by the letter yodh. This is the monogram of Sylleaus, Obodas II's vizier. These coins are accurately dated to 9 BC, the year Obodas died and a power struggle ensued between Sylleaus and Aretas IV. Aretas prevailed, and after 9 BC, Sylleaus' monogram disappears from the coinage.

    sylleaus500.jpg

    Shin (in red), lamedh (in blue), yodh (in yellow). Notice that this monogram also appears on the reverse. This coin is struck off-center, but in this case it's an advantage if you're looking for examples of this rare inscription.

    sylleaus500lig.jpg
     
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  7. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    nabateans again..........

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    no seriously, that is a very non-boring nabatean JA. i think i would guess that was some type of greek coin just seeing the picture, different lookin coin for those guys....at least to me.
     
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  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Your observation is spot-on. They only had a few designs that were uniquely ethnic. Most of their coins are modeled after Greek types. The eagle imitates those found on Ptolemaic bronzes and the shekels of Tyre.
     
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  9. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    This is a semitic language? An adjab? Is that the proper word?
     
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  10. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Yes, semitic. Not adjab - abjad. :) But some vowels are included in the alphabet.
     
  11. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Thats it I NEED a Nabatean. I admire your enthusiasm for these coins. I need to have one of each culture and this is one I still don't have. This will change and JA you will be the first to know.

    I am looking for the one that speaks to me, but I speak an odd language.
     
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  12. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    Yo. Abjad.....good scrabble word!
     
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  13. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    Another cool srabble word I recently learned from coins is...zeugma! I know its a city on the Euphrates but its also a word that means......
     
  14. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Unfortunately, Nabataean never developed anything like the diacritical marks of Hebrew Niqqud, so we can only guess at some of the vowels. Aretas' wife was SKYLT, which gets transliterated as Shaqilat or Shuqailat, but it could have been some other variation.
     
  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I've actually had that word in my tiles a few times, but never came across an opportunity to put it on the board.
     
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  16. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    In my mind I call her Shaq.
     
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  17. TIF

    TIF Always learning.


    In my mind I call her "Chocolate". Our pronunciations clearly demonstrate our genders. :D
     
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  18. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Agreed.
     
  19. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

    I call her shaka-laka.
     
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