An Obscure AE3 of Constans

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by John Anthony, Nov 30, 2014.

  1. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    As you all know, I dig around in (metaphorical) junk bins for scarce coins that others have overlooked for lack of cherry-picking savvy. Last night I won this scrappy little coin of Constans, a type that I believe was only minted in Rome - but I need to check RIC to verify that.

    At any rate, this coin isn't going to win any beauty contests, and RIC actually rates these types as common, but I believe they're rare. Check out vcoins for examples that aren't as "nice" as mine, selling for considerably more than the $17 I sacrificed for this specimen.

    Securitas is depicted with his best hey-baby-how-ya-doin' pose - he must have seen Aphrodite strutting by. :hungry: Do any of you have one? Doug?

    constans securitas 1.jpg

    You don't have to tell me it's a nice coin. I know it's not. I collected it because, despite what RIC says, it's an obscure type among all the dime-a-dozen LRB's.
     
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  3. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    Securitas is a she. http://www.forumancientcoins.com/dougsmith/pers.html

    That doesn't rule out hitting on Aphrodite though. :D
     
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  4. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

  5. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I was ready to bid on this coin, but had just placed a bid on a much more expesive coin. I saw the same in this coin. Not something you see often. I'm glad it made it to you.
     
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  6. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    Thanks Bing. There were four or five bidders, so a handful of collectors spotted it as scarce. I expected the bidding to go a little higher, but it didn't. It just proves the point that when it comes to ancient coins, rarity does not necessarily equate to market value.
     
  7. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice find, still not a fan of this era but little rarities like these are always a treat.

    Hope my silver rarity from the uk comes this week. :meh:
     
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  8. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    What did you get? Or is it a secret?
     
  9. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Eh, kinda, lady denarius of course that was going unnoticed due to its "common" look of a standing god reverse, but its very rare.:D
     
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  10. ValiantKnight

    ValiantKnight Well-Known Member

    You guys aren't the only ones with a new acquisition :D. I think at best its scarce but I got it for a good price as far as they go. I just hope I have spare batteries laying around for my camera so I can photograph the coin.
     
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  11. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Love the color Big J, i don't think i've seen a reverse like that, very cool...
     
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  12. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

    Not I.

    It is the kind of coin that most collectors would shun but that I'd be happy to have. Remember that RIC rarities are huge jokes anyway. Be happy to have it. What bothers me is so many people pay $17 for a generic Constans no better than this in grade but available by the pound. Have you searched for a really nice one in the big sales? It is not quite the best compared to acsearch but that dose not mean they are all that good and some are very pricey. Had I seen it, I would have bid a lot more than $17.

    This is the Failmezger plate coin for Constantius II. He did not have a Constans but did rate the type as R. Perhaps I should point out that Tory was not famous for having mint state examples of every common coin but were they easily available, I suspect he would have upgraded this one.
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  13. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I did see the three nicer ones on acsearch - only one was listed with a cost, at $180. But it's not the sort of coin I would look to spend big money on. It's much more satisfying to cherry-pick it for the price of a common coin. I've had a string of good luck lately, finding some of the more obscure LRB types for a song or two.
     
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  14. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    It's a matter of patience and perseverance.
     
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  15. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I have to laugh at how completely bored Clint Eastwood is with that speech, lol.
     
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  16. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    Cool addition! Better than mine ( I have 2 but the other one is too worn and too glossy to get a pic of.

    Constans AE4. D N FL CONSTANS AVG, laurel & rosette-diademed, draped & cuirassed bust right / SECVRITAS REIP, Securitas standing facing, legs crossed, head right, holding sceptre & leaning on column, R[-leaf-Q?] in ex.

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  17. medoraman

    medoraman Supporter! Supporter

    I find you have to consider the times in which RIV was written. Iron curtain in place, (or earlier). We are used to eastern types the last 20 years, but back then they mainly had the western types. So amongst western LRB this type not be scarce, but amongst our eastern coins today it is.

    I see this a lot in older references.
     
  18. 7Calbrey

    7Calbrey Well-Known Member

    Hi. Here's another Securitas , but of Valens.. Hope it could serve. Valens R.jpg ValensO.jpg
     
  19. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Nice one, JA. I like these unusual LRBs you've been picking up and would love to have them too.
     
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  20. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I realize that RIC rarities refer only to the samples taken by the various authors of RIC. As such, they are 100% accurate. But also as such, they often don't translate into current market availability.
     
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