Ancients - Grumpy Caracalla

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  1. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    I don't know what my fascination with this guy is all about, but it seems I'm always attracted to his coins when I see them. Without a doubt, it was the portrait that convinced me to make this purchase. I had some trouble attributing this particular provincial, but in the end I had a lot of help from some of the members on this forum as well as Forum Ancient Coins.
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    CARACALLA AE23
    OBVERSE: Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right, seen from behind
    REVERSE: NIKOMHDEΩN ΔIC NEΩKOPΩN, Tyche standing left, holding rudder and cornucopia
    Struck at BITHYNIA, Nicomedia, 198-217 AD
    7.1g, 23mm
    RG 234; WADD RG S546,234(1-3)

    Caracalla: Marcus Aurelius Severus Antoninus Augustus was the popular nickname of Antoninus (4 April 188 – 8 April 217), Roman emperor of Punic and Syrian descent from 198 to 217. The eldest son of Septimius Severus, he reigned jointly with his father from 198 until Severus' death in 211. For a short time he then ruled jointly with his younger brother Geta until he had him murdered later in 211. Caracalla is remembered as one of the most notorious and unpleasant of emperors because of the massacres and persecutions he authorized and instigated throughout the Empire.
     
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  3. John Anthony

    John Anthony Ultracrepidarian

    I was hoping you'd get that coin! It really is a great provincial. I'll share my recent S. Severus of Nikopolis with a similar Tyche, only holding patera...

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  4. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Nice addition, his portraits are some of the more expressive. I wouldnt wanna live during his reign, or work for him.
     
  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    awesome bing, that's a great obverse bust of caracalla.

    here a pentassaria of caracalla and tyche where he looks happy...with him mom.

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  6. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Very cool new addition, my good man ... great snag!!

    ... this is my only Caracalla example ...

    Caracalla AR Antoninianus

    Rome mint
    198-217 A.D.
    Struck AD 215
    Diameter: 24 mm
    Weight: 5.19 grams
    Obverse: Radiate, draped, and cuirassed bust right
    Reverse: Radiate / Luna driving biga of oxen left


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  7. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Those coins are great, Steve's antoninianus is outstanding
    For me, what I prefer with Caracalla is his wife, Plautilla :rolleyes:

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  8. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Sexist?
     
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  9. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Sexist ?
    No !
    Certainly not !
    But I find Plautilla way more attractive than Caracalla, from an aesthetic point of view (lol)

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  10. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Without a doubt. The one coin I have with her portrait makes her out as very pretty. Too bad she had such a bad life because of Caracalla.
     
  11. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    I think Geta had the worst life due to Caracalla ;)
     
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  12. Valentinian

    Valentinian Well-Known Member

    Here is a first year of issue (Year XVIII = 215 AD) for the radiate denomination we now call an antoninianus (after Caracalla--see his name in the obverse legend):

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    Serapis standing facing, head left, wearing polos, raising right hand and holding scepter.
    A "grumpy" sour face.
    24-23 mm. Sear 6772. Rome mint.
     
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  13. zumbly

    zumbly Ha'ina 'ia mai ana ka puana

    Great new pickup, Bing... I love Caracalla portraits!

    This is my current favorite from the younger, non-grumpy period and in a style I really like.

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    CARACALLA
    AR Denarius
    3.2g, 18.9mm
    Rome mint, 209 AD
    RIC 111; Sear 6868
    O: ANTONINVS PIVS AVG, laureate youthful and bearded head right.
    R: PONTIF TR P XII COS III, Concordia seated left, holding patera and double cornucopiae.
     
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  14. Eng

    Eng Senior Eng

    Great lookin' coin jw, i have one awesome Caracalla that i got from you, Thanks....;) could find the coin pic. so i thought i'd show you a 30lb King Salmon, one of many that i caught this Fall. need to come out next year and get your Salmon on...
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  15. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    That's awesome, Eng ... huh. it's lookin' like a typical drizzly November day, eh?

    => yup, I'm homesick!!
     
  16. Bing

    Bing Illegitimi non carborundum Supporter

    Tell me when. I just might make the journey for that kind of fishing.
     
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  17. randygeki

    randygeki Coin Collector

    I like Carcalla a lot too. Quite a different portrait than his Bro. car750.JPG 002~5.JPG
     
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  18. Cucumbor

    Cucumbor Well-Known Member

    Even Caracalla has been a cute young lad, but that was before...

    This denarius is "twined" with it's equivalent for Plautilla, showing the same reverse. They both have been minted AD 202 on the occasion of their marriage.

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    Caracalla, Denarius Rome mint, AD 202
    ANTONINVS PIVS AVG, Laureate and draped bust of Caracalla right
    CONCORDIA FELIX, Caracalla and Plautilla face to face, shaking hands
    3.34 gr
    Ref : RCV # 6794 (160), RSC # 23, RIC # 124a

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    Plautilla, Denarius Rome mint
    PLAVTILLA AVGVSTA, draped bust right
    CONCORDIA FELIX, Caracalla and Plautilla face to face, shaking hands
    3.30 gr
    Ref : RCV #7066 var, RSC # 12, RIC # 365b, BMC # 419, Hill # 584

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  19. TIF

    TIF Always learning.

    I only have two of Caracalla and one was an incidental purchase found in a mixed lot (the denarius). He has so many interesting coins; I expect to buy more in the future.

    His expression is not particularly grumpy or mean in either coin although he looks a bit constipated on the provincial :D

    I'd like to get an example of his innocent boy portrait and his super-mean portrait.

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  20. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Eng got himself a river monster. OH!
     
  21. JBGood

    JBGood Collector of coinage Supporter

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    Such a cute little boy! His parents should have sent him to a military academy.
     
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