1983 D Penny Concave Crater Error? Help!!

Discussion in 'Error Coins' started by Pennyseeker, Jan 26, 2010.

  1. Pennyseeker

    Pennyseeker Junior Member

    I posted this penny in the What it's Worth section and still have no clue as to what this might be. There's a small crater underneath the date with the D still intact inside. I tried to do some research on it but couldn't find anything. I was just wondering if this was an error of some kind or done post mint. Any help would be kindly appreciated. Thank you.
     

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  3. lincolnhoardr

    lincolnhoardr Coin Hoarder

    I have seen that may times on early zinc cents on one part of the coin or another and it just the zinc rotting beneath the plating and the plating has sunk into the area of the rot.
     
  4. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

    post mint damage, also zinc rot.

    no value.
     
  5. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Zinc rot for sure,about 3/4 of 83P&D thur1988,are like that,a nice MS65-67 is what rare!!
    Plus the DDO&DDR
     
  6. Johnathan Massey

    Johnathan Massey New Member

    I believe they are incorrect. I found one identical to you're coin. The odds, of them both rotting in same place are astronomical.
     
  7. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Wrong.
    The most common place for pre 1990 zinc cents to rot is around the mintmark. Because the mintmark is hand struck into the working die it is often higher relief than the rest of the coin, leading to more chances of the copper plate splitting at that point. Once there is a split in the plating to allow the atmosphere in the zinc rot begins. I have seen many cents with the rot around the mintmark, several so bad that the mintmark actually fell off the coin.
     
  8. Johnathan Massey

    Johnathan Massey New Member

    When did they start putting the mint mark on the same die. I was told they were done Separately.I'm a amateur AT this so excuse me if needed
     
  9. Johnathan Massey

    Johnathan Massey New Member

    Also our coins look identical
     
  10. Johnathan Massey

    Johnathan Massey New Member

    Is it possible it was struck so hard the shaft of the mint die structure was raised on the die also
     
  11. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    Prior to 1990 the mintmark was hand applied to the working die using a punch. After 1990 the die was included in the master die. The mintmark is not applied to the coin separately in either instance.
     
  12. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    Ziggy is right... But this is classic zinc rot.
     
  13. ziggy9

    ziggy9 *NEC SPERNO NEC TIMEO*

    which was my point in post number 5
     
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  14. 19Lyds

    19Lyds Member of the United States of Confusion

    Absolutely nothing in the minting process could account for what appears on this coin and since that is the case, it's Post Minting Damage which, while interesting to look at, renders the piece useless.

    Whether it's rot, rheumatism, arthritis, or an ancient volcanic caldera, it's nothing more than a "roll" filler since, by itself, it has no monetary value and with most certainty, no numismatic value.
     
  15. Real Slick

    Real Slick Active Member

    looking and learning
     
  16. silviosi

    silviosi Member

    Very old post and in ten yers you can not see that the coin posted was cleaned and accelerate the zinc oxides?.
     
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