Which of the 4 Silver Kennedy's in the new 50th Set looks the best? Poll

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Which of the 4 Silver Kennedy's in the new 50th Set looks the best? (Cited from: https://www.cointal

Poll closed Nov 30, 2014.
  1. Reverse Proof (W)

    40.9%
  2. Enhanced Uncirculated (S)

    40.9%
  3. Proof (P)

    6.8%
  4. Uncirculated (D)

    11.4%
  1. bkozak33

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  3. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Okay, here's what I was seeing on the "bad" enhanced uncirculated example. In all these images, I've arranged the lighting to maximize the appearance of the polish lines (?), but -- well, see what you think.

    First, the obverse -- the polish lines visible here aren't prominent to the naked eye, but the diagonal stripes across the portrait definitely are. It looks like the laser scanning mechanism was glitching while applying the frost to the die.

    bad-s-obv.jpg

    Next, the reverse -- I couldn't believe my eyes when I got the capsule loose and flipped it over.

    bad-s-rev.jpg

    Here's a close-up of part of the field.

    bad-s-rev-close.jpg

    I'm fine with "interesting textures", but this just looks like damage to me. I could drag steel wool across the field, and you wouldn't be able to tell the difference unless you used enough magnification to tell whether the "hairlines" are incuse or relief. (These are clearly something like polishing lines -- relief, and not crossing the devices -- but I've never seen them looking this ugly.)

    For comparison, here are the obverse and reverse of the second example, again with the light arranged to maximize any field disturbances.

    good-s-obv.jpg

    good-s-rev.jpg

    I'm really happy with this one. I don't know (or particularly care) if it would get a 70, but I can look at it and say, "that's a beautiful coin". The first one? Not so much...
     
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  4. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    I like the look of the lines. Again, to me it almost looks like stainless steel or something
     
  5. coindudeonebay

    coindudeonebay SMS Guru

    LoL! That's the widest spread doubled die I've seen since the 66! :)
     
  6. Chiefbullsit

    Chiefbullsit CRAZY HORSE

    I wonder how many collectors bought 5 sets and with all 20 coins put together a nice set and sent the other 4 sets back? Probably cost less than $20 to do that.

    How close are they to selling out?
     
  7. krispy

    krispy krispy

    There's still time to assemble your set! Sales report from earlier this week:

    US Mint Sales Report: Kennedy Silver Set Sales Reach 125,147 [via Coin Update]
     
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  8. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Well, I have great news for you -- there are lots and lots of coins available with that sort of surface texture, in every series. They're easy to find, too -- just use "harshly cleaned" as your search keywords. ;)
     
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  9. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Except this WASN'T cleaned. I like this from the mint, not when your average joe does it
     
  10. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Don't look at the wide mirroring, look at the small spread on the date.
     
  11. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    I certainly understand the difference. To me, though, the mint finish looks so much like a harshly-cleaned field that I just can't appreciate it.

    Come to think of it, maybe that's why I so dislike reverse proofs, and why I'm not terribly fond of non-cameo proofs. The mirrored devices remind me of coins that someone has polished. There are obvious differences, but that's my visceral reaction.
     
  12. anchor1112

    anchor1112 Senior Member

    As far as prices is concerned. Reverse proof is the winner again. As far as beauty. Then both revere proof and enhanced uncirculated are on top. As far as collector is concerned. Silver Proof is the widely collected since 1992. And this one the the lowest mintage.
     
  13. Ethan

    Ethan Collector of Kennedy's

    Well I think the Enhanced Uncirculated will be the key to this series, IF it is in good condition as it seems a lot are far from perfect. I think buying a slabbed 70 of this one will be a great investment.
     
  14. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    I'm somewhat baffled by the price of these sets on ebay. Folks are paying $140 a set when you can get them for $99 at the mint. Am I missing something? It may be a good omen for me buying 5 of them from the mint.
     
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  15. coindudeonebay

    coindudeonebay SMS Guru

    I bought 5 sets, kept two for my sons, sold the other three on ebay for $125 each. I guess they are willing to pay more to try and get 70's for resale because of the 5 limit.
     
  16. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    And they have no family and friends?
     
  17. Ethan

    Ethan Collector of Kennedy's

    I went through my 5 sets, only one of the En. Uncs did not have the lines. The others 4/5 were good. I believe the En.Uncs will be the winners if clear.....of this I have no doubt.
     
  18. coindudeonebay

    coindudeonebay SMS Guru

    BTW, when I sold mine, I didn't search to see which were the nicest coins, I picked two out of the box, resealed and shipped them out. I won't be grading them, they'll stay in the OGP until who knows when.
     
  19. anchor1112

    anchor1112 Senior Member

    How many times of magnifying glasses you guys using to check the hairlines.?.
     
  20. jwitten

    jwitten Well-Known Member

    Was the final sale price with shipping $125? If so, did you make anything, or even break even? Factoring in ebay cost, paypal costs, and shipping cost... not much to work with.
     
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  21. -jeffB

    -jeffB Greshams LEO Supporter

    Nothing. The first time I got that bad one pried out of the packaging and turned it over, I nearly dropped it from surprise. No magnification needed. (To be fair, the light was coming from my left, so it was highlighting the lines when I first saw them.)

    That's interesting to know. I only had my own 50/50 data set, so for all I knew, it might have been the "heavy lines" variety turning out to be rarest. Sounds like that's not the case, though. I wonder if the heavy lines show in the early die state, and fade as the die is used more?
     
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