Ancient- Potin Trunk-Empire of the Satavahana

Discussion in 'Ancient Coins' started by Ancientnoob, Nov 2, 2014.

  1. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    I figure there are enough people here who can appreciate a good elephant or a ratty little Indian coin. This coin was struck in the first century AD at an unknown location. This coin type was minted nearly 2 centuries often with the proper names of Kings and in later times (Like this case) mention only a family name...Satakanri although there was at least 2 kings by this name the weight and material of the coin place it in (37 BC to 107 AD).
    The reverse is of particular interest to me, there are various interpretations of what they symbol is. The reverse symbol as been used on coins of central since early times in and around the city of Ujjain. (Jammu) I have seen it described as for dotted lobes attached to a central node. Another common interpretation of the symbol is that it represent the Sun or that it represents the four directions, N,S,E and W.

    Empire of the Satavahana
    Anonymous Potin Karshapana
    S.37 BC to 107 AD
    19 mm x 2.64 g
    Obverse: Jeweled Elephant right.Brahmi- Sa Ta Ka Ni Sa
    Revers: Ujjain Symbol
    Ref: Mitchiner ACW 4941ff
    satakarnis_opt.jpg
     
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  3. Mat

    Mat Ancient Coincoholic

    Never seen the type before, pretty cool.
     
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  4. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Thanks for the compliment. This coin is pretty common, if not the most common ancient Indian coin type.
     
  5. chrsmat71

    chrsmat71 I LIKE TURTLES!

    awesome little coin AN, i love weird asian coins. one of the type is on my list for sure. that one is pretty darn nice compared to most i've seen.
     
  6. icerain

    icerain Mastir spellyr

    Interesting looking coin, if you had not said the obverse was an elephant I would have never guessed. The reverse looks pretty neat too.
     
  7. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Here one of the other family members: Vasisthiputra Pulumavi.
    Above the elephant in Brahmi [RaNo SiRi Pu]LuMaViSa.
    Pulumavi.jpg
     
  8. dougsmit

    dougsmit Member

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    My two, shown in the same order as the first two, show slightly different arts of the legends which never all make it on flan, it seems. Both of mine and the one posted by THCoins shows the reverse symbols' central device more as connecting bars than a 'central node'. While common, the coins I have seen really look like they were made in a rush and many are very poorly centered. Finding the one you want may take a little looking.
     
  9. stevex6

    stevex6 Random Mayhem

    Cool addition, Noob (and others) ...

    sadly, I don't have one of these elephant examples, "yet" ...

    Curious, does the reverse design have any significance (4 cities, or 4 families, or 4 alien crop-circles!!?)

    ;)
     
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  10. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Well Steve, I suppose you guess is as good as mine.
     
  11. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    Doug's last coin is a nice illustration that the symbol on the reverse actually is not the Ujjain symbol. When the Satavahana came to power over this region they did copy the Ujjain symbol, but added an extra crescent to it as a distinguishing feature. Commonly this is off flan however.
     
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  12. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    See when I saw originally saw examples with the crescent I assumed that was part of another coin, thinking maybe these coins were struck in line. Shows how much I know.
     
  13. THCoins

    THCoins Well-Known Member

    If you look at examples of the Satavahana silver coinage (sorry haven't got one to show) there usually is a smaller and complete version of the symbol.
    (And i guess what you have learned is more important than what you know ?)
     
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  14. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    Yea, I wanted some Satavahana silver coinage but they have some rather high prices, some of the most expensive Indian Native coinage I have come across. One of those is going on the list...
     
  15. Shreyank

    Shreyank New Member

    Yes satavahana coins are a treat to the eyes with good well centered examples of potion coins.
     
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  16. Ancientnoob

    Ancientnoob Money Changer

    @Shreyank - since this posting I have greatly expanded my collection - check out my threads on Satavahana coinage. Quite a few silvers and some of the rarer silver and bronze coins.
     
  17. Sallent

    Sallent Live long and prosper

    I know this is an old thread, but that is an amazing coin @Ancientnoob
     
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