Anyone think it’s time for the mint to lower prices?

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by statequarterguy, Oct 30, 2014.

  1. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Sheesh! PM’s are tanking and the mint raises prices on some bullion items? Sheesh! Anyone think it’s time for the mint to lower prices? I’d like to buy some bullion related collectables, but I’m waiting for the mint to lower prices. Since these guys are a monopoly (i.e. they have no competition), the only way they’ll lower prices is if sales are down.
     
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  3. josh's coins

    josh's coins Well-Known Member

    you do know there are millions of other places where you can buy bullion collectibles right?
    The US Mint is by no means a monopoly.
     
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  4. Phil Ham

    Phil Ham Hamster

    I would vote for the Everglades puck at $129.95.
     
  5. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Not U.S. Coins.
     
  6. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Yep, even though $119.95 would be more appropriate.
     
  7. anchor1112

    anchor1112 Senior Member

    Most silver coin products produced by the mint were based on $24.00 per ounce of silver. Now the silver is down to around $16.00. Mint over charged us by 50%. It should be lower down on all of their products.
     
  8. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    The mint is required by law to charge a given percentage over and above their costs. So regardless of what current spot is they have to charge based on what it was at the time they bought the metal used to mint the given coins.
     
  9. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Well, that may be, but bottom line is based on spot, they're making more than when spot was higher. They do adjust their strictly bullion products to a percentage of spot often, as they did on their numismatic products until recently.
     
  10. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Uhhhh no, their bottom line, meaning the amount of profit they make, is based on what the spot price was at the time they bought the metal, and their other over-head. That never changes. So they pretty much make the same amount of profit, no matter what the spot price is.
     
  11. statequarterguy

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    Hey, the mint should have to operate like everyone else, if spot tanks, they should have to sell their numismatic products at lower prices like everyone else and like they do with their bullion products. Depending on what they paid for their bullion, they would appear to be taking a loss on the bullion products. Of course everyone else has competition, so the only way to "force" them to lower the price is to not buy from them.
     
  12. anchor1112

    anchor1112 Senior Member

    I second the motion. Do not buy from the mint at this high price.
     
  13. drathbun

    drathbun Well-Known Member

  14. saltysam-1

    saltysam-1 Junior Member

    Off course there is the other side to the equation. Should they raise their numismatic prices from the original amount if silver or gold increase? I'm not talking bullion here, just collector pieces, or what you want to call such. We could all not buy then either. Just imagine how happy those that did buy would be, if the mintage's stay real low for the secondary market. We would make a lot of friends but be in the company of fools.
     
  15. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    Tra
    Traditionally they do raise and lower numismatic prices with the rise and fall of PM's. However, through most of this year, rather than directly lower numismatic silver prices, they did so indirectly by offering subscription discounts. Now with silver tanking, they stop the subscription discounts and retain inflated regular prices.

    I thought there is a schedule for pricing silver products. Anyone know where to find it?
     
    Last edited: Nov 2, 2014
  16. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    As a US citizen and taxpayer, I am adamantly against the US Mint selling collector coins and bullion products at a loss. If the Mint were forced to operate like other businesses, they'd be charging $80 per ASE, just like the Pawn Stars bullion rounds.
     
  17. NorthKorea

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  18. statequarterguy

    statequarterguy Love Pucks

    LOL! That's a joke, right?
     
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  20. NorthKorea

    NorthKorea Dealer Member is a made up title...

    Please, explain how ASEs (American Silver Eagles) aren't numismatic bullion. They certainly aren't intended for circulation, since their face value is 1.5-3 percent of issue price.

    And, no, I wasn't kidding. I don't want the Mint selling products at a loss. If you buy them on the secondary market at a loss, I could care less, but the Mint has an obligation to the Treasury Department to post a profit.
     
  21. GDJMSP

    GDJMSP Numismatist Moderator

    Hmmmm, maybe it's kind of like ethics - as long as it's good me personally, then it's ethical. But if it's bad for me personally then it's unethical. :rolleyes:
     
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