1858 Half Dime

Discussion in 'US Coins Forum' started by BigTee44, Oct 30, 2014.

  1. BigTee44

    BigTee44 Well-Known Member

    what are the chances of this coin grading MS by NGC? It's currently in an ANACS holder.

    I'm thinking of submitting it with my next submission with ngc

    Sweet die clash on both sides too! The one on the obverse looks like a flame.


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  3. Treashunt

    Treashunt The Other Frank

  4. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    Seems like a waste of money, it won't make the coin any better.
     
  5. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Nice half dime!
    Ngc my details also could come back with on of the repunched date variety. I'm not sure what one or value it would add.
     
  6. C G Memminger

    C G Memminger Active Member

    at first glance, it looked like an XF coin. Details on right knee and fold lines in gown draped off right leg seemed worn. looked at a photo of a PCGS 63PF variety of this coin, and the details were super sharp. But proof strikes and business strikes ain't the same. Looked at a number of 1858 on ebay in 61-65 slabs. Most of the Philly '58 HDs I saw were weak strikes.

    yours appears to be in the lower MS range. gray sheet shows this at $130 on grade 60 and $220 in 63.
     
  7. Miko W

    Miko W Active Member

    No, but if it crosses over it will be more valuable. Instantly.
     
  8. Mainebill

    Mainebill Bethany Danielle

    It could hard to tell that obverse has a terrible strike luster and high points look ok if ms I'd say 62
     
  9. afantiques

    afantiques Well-Known Member

    it will be more valuable. Instantly.

    I'm sure that is tongue in cheek, obviously the item has the same value, but I'll agree the asking price might inflate. As always, people should make up their own minds, not pay someone to do it for them.

    If all you collect is labels you might as well collect dried cow-pats as coins.
     
  10. Miko W

    Miko W Active Member

    I have no interest in arguing the point, as people have their opinions about the merits of TPGs and they are perfectly entitled to them. I appreciate the discussion on all sides. But I am curious... how would market value (as opposed to personal value, of course) be determined apart from asking price?

    The reality is, with exceptions due to toning, identically graded coins graded by PCGS have the highest asking prices, followed by NGC graded coins, followed by ANACS, followed by maybe ICG and then raw coins. The asking price stratification based on the TPG is rather established and rigid.
     
  11. LostDutchman

    LostDutchman Under Staffed & Overly Motivated Supporter

    I think it's a slider...
     
  12. Mojavedave

    Mojavedave Senior Member

    I kind of agree with your statement, but my thoughts are that probably a good 80% of collectors do not know how to grade a coin and the slab alleviates their concerns.

    Dave
     
  13. BooksB4Coins

    BooksB4Coins Newbieus Sempiterna

    There we go... a voice of reason.
     
  14. jello

    jello Not Expert★NormL®

    Sometimes slabs photo's hide or make the illusion a coin grade is higher or lower.
    If you want to gamble with a new grade and can afford to go for it. Sometimes ya win or lose but maybe not on this one.
     
  15. KoinJester

    KoinJester Well-Known Member

  16. Tom B

    Tom B TomB Everywhere Else

    Doesn't look MS to me.
     
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