Will this 1807 Bust Quarter Grade?

What are your thoughts on this 1807 Quarter. Anyone know the die variety.

Picked it up today and I think this one will be going to NGC in the next couple of weeks when I sign up for a NGC membership.

 

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What are your concerns? From the picture is looks to be an attractive piece, with original skin. Sharpness of a VF-20 or so, IMO. It is difficult to determine whether a piece is problem free from photos, though. We are only getting one angle, in two dimensions; problems have a way of hiding in some angles and popping out in others.

As to the die marriage, I can be more helpful. 1807 has two known die marriages; yours is the first, B-1 (R-2). This explains the weak rims on your piece, as coins of this die marriage are known for their weak dentilation and edge reeds.

Good luck on your submission, be sure to let us know the results when they arrive!

Jesse

 

The grading companies are VERY tough on these. This coin will come back VG10 or if you're lucky, F12.
I like it!

 

I can't speak for the 'bent and re-flattened' thing at all, but it looks like an attractive, problem free example to me.
Great quarter! I'm jealous.

 

And C-B-D, are the grading companies tough on Draped Bust quarters, or all the Draped stuff in general? More so than the later Capped Bust stuff?

 

I like the color and originality without seeing in hand I'm saying yes it'll grade my call vg-10 or f-12 on a good day I see a lot of early bust quarters around this grade nice coin!

 

The draped bust coins often have varying degrees of strike weakness I think May be the irregularities your seeing this is why many will in places or on one side have the sharpness of a higher grade and this is why they often grade lower I immediately thought vg-f tho on this one have seen many quarters and halfs in this grade range and have owned several and bid on many more. Is on the early quarters the best range for good eye appeal without breaking the bank in my opinion

 

What's retail on this bad boy?

Anyone got a grey sheet?

 

Pcgs calks it $950 in vg 10 and $1200 in f-12 my grey sheet downstairs and I don't got my contacts in

 

Did good in this pick up if it grades clean then.

 

I don't see any reason out wont unless you send it to pcgs and they need to invent one actually they haven't napalmed any early stuff of mine is mostly toners

 

Looks good to me, I'd call it VG-10. The one small scratch below the bust is the only thing that would concern me with PCGS, but I don't see them giving it a details grade for that. Sweet piece.

 

They almost always grade minor circulation scratches on these early coins unless there really having a bad day I've sent in sever al as bad or worse and they graded

 

I have found that on eBay, in Fine condition, they usually sell for $850-$1100, depending on "the look." In VG10 they sell in the $650-$850 range. I had a PCGS F15 sell at auction last year for $875. SO disappointing!

 

They're tough on all of them. Draped bust half dime through half dollar, especially. Sometimes, they go a little easier on the dollars. Sometimes...

 

Probably cause the dollars have a better strike then the rest as they were struck on a different press. I find pcgs and ngc quite consistent at least on the early stuff which I can't say about some other series

 

Yes, I was talking about them being tough on the grade. In other words, coins that look Fine often are given VG's, etc. They are very forgiving of marks and scratches on coins below mid vf.

 

B-1 (R2) VG10. I don't think there's any chance of it going F12.

 

I see this one as F-VF. What concerns me are the scratches on the obverse. They are distracting enough to catch you a "F15 Details, Scratches" The criss-cross scratches at 10 o:clock could be graffiti.

The "scratch" from her forehead to the star looks like metal fatigue. if this coin was bent and re-flattened, that kind of fissure can result.